Music Hot Takes
Recently user SteveTheEagle had a very interesting thread on here on controversial movie opinions. I was thinking about just how wildly people’s musical tastes differ (a similar post about top 5 songs had different answers for everyone), yet how ubiquitously music reaches the soul. So it got me thinking, what are your hot takes in terms of music?
I’ll start:
- The Grateful Dead is one of the most mid and overrated bands I’ve ever heard, and I don’t find their songs particularly engaging at all. I hear people saying it’s so deep and all but many of their songs just feel like boring, seventeen minute jam sessions. Similar feelings about bands such as Phish and DMB. I don’t get the appeal of bands where you have to be stoned to enjoy it. I really like Touch of Grey but that’s about it.
- George Harrison’s solo stuff was as good as the Beatles, and he tends to always get overshadowed by John and Paul. When you listen to songs like What Is Life, When We Was Fab, Crackerbox Palace, etc., they hold up.
- Many of my friends are huge on Whiny One Pilots, and more power to them, but they are possibly the worst band I have ever heard. I used to have to listen to Car Radio everyday at work and it was torture. I hate the singer’s voice.
- Jump, and most of 1984, is what most people think of when they think of Van Halen but it doesn’t hold a candle to classic Van Halen. I still love 1984 but it feels almost like a different band at times, even before Sammy Hagar replaced David Lee Roth.
- Blackstar is my favorite David Bowie album (RIP). Hunky Dory and Ziggy Stardust are still absolute masterpieces though.
I have more but want to hear what you’ve got.
At least, in my humble opinion.
I'm a The Living Tombstone kid
The country music most people viscerally imagine is both terrible and unreflective of the genre as a whole.
Listening to folk music should be more socially accepted.
South coast rap easily beats out east and west coast.
Meta take: disliking popular modern music isn't a hot take.
Gotta disagree with you on mj but hey that’s what hot takes are for
An opinion of "Rap isn't real music" can be formed by people thinking that rap lacks traditional melody or harmony.
Just a Friend by Biz Markie, 21 Questions by 50 Cent, Lose Yourself by Eminem, and those are just off the top of my head.
All of these songs are either clean or have clean versions btw
Are you suggesting that all non-black people have to acknowledge that rap *is* real music in order to not be racist?
What if a black person says that rap music isn't real music? Does that make them racist too?
Comparatively, I also consider house music to not be real music. Does that make me racist?
I don't think that Beyoncé's country album was real country. Does that make me racist?
Does a black person saying that country music isn’t real music make them racist?
Like Pontiac, I don't like rap either (barring the very odd song). I don't need you to condescend me by telling me that that opinion is valid, but I will firmly assert that your opinion is strongly invalid.
Honestly, you and your roommate need to grow the **** up
First off saying house music or country music isn't music when they have all of the elements of music, similar to rap music, is a poor take to begin with. You just don't like them. There's a difference.
Second, as Dimby said, dismissing forms of black art and aspects of black culture, as well as other cultures I might add, as being not legitimate has been a thing for how long now. This is just one example I frequently see with the music industry. All of these individual examples you listed doesn't change that, nor does the race of the individual spouting it.
Also, the only one being condescending here is you. Maybe you're the one who needs to grow up, pal.
Accusing people of racism when they aint being racist is getting old. It is causing society to not believe anything is racist because everything is racist now. I am quite sick of it as well.
I don’t consider the genres I mentioned to be music because I don’t like how they sound, not because of anyone’s skin colour.
Do you realise that it’s possible to dismiss forms of black culture because you dislike the forms rather than black culture?
You’re the only one spouting false equivalences. Some people dismissing rap as “not music” due to racism does not mean that everyone who does so is racist. I do not understand how you don’t see that.
Dimby’s comments might be factually accurate, but they’re contextually irrelevant. American attitudes from decades ago have no bearing on my ability to think for myself in 2020s England. In fact, I haven’t liked rap since becoming conscious of music in the early 2000s, so are you suggesting I am just naturally racist and have been since the age of 3?
Please stop digging yourself into a hole over a topic you know nothing about
At least, in my humble opinion.
Also, whoever replied "is that what we call opinions nowadays? Thinly veiled racism?" peak ragebait
Contrary to your take, I think that twenty one pilots hate is mainly because their popular songs got overplayed
So hey, if you want to know how to make me fall down screaming, there it is!
Back in the day you had agents scouting out people who had talent, dedication, and passion. Nowadays, those agents have been replaced by algorithms, based on whatever drives a profit. Everyone has their 15 minutes of fame, and the industry is flooded with mediocrity.
It's the same with the movie industry, it's the same with most industries nowadays. Mediocrity sells, our attention spans decrease, creativity dies, talented musicians with a passion go unheard, as people only focus on appeasing their executives. It's a shame.
#GoClassical
I only listen to Harrison/Beatles and Bowie of the things you mentioned, and I agree with the Harrison take(the highs are just as high as the beatles), but I have to disagree with bowie. Blackstar is great, but i just prefer station to station, ziggy stardust, and hunky dory more.
Saying the state of the music industry now is the worst its ever been is just conformation bias of a handful of artists. Every decade has their Benson Boone's and Shaboozey's. Only the best or most popular music from previous decades stays in the cultural mainstream which is why people tend to forget how much bad music played back then.