Wikipedia has a new competitor

Submitted by Quizmaster on October 30, 2025
So apparently Elon Musk just launched a new online encyclopedia called Grokipedia. Half of you are already groaning. Now let me will make the other half of you groan too... The entire encyclopedia is created by AI.

Nevertheless, I'm optimistic. Elon always overpromises and underdelivers. But the end result is usually way better than anything that came before.

And I think it's time for Wikipedia to get some competition.

I've often said that Wikipedia is "my favorite website" and "the quizmasters bible". But if I'm being honest, it's been stagnant or worse for at least a decade, even as their budget grows to ridiculous heights.

I think monopolies inevitably create complacency. Wikipedia's number of active editors peaked in 2006 and has mostly flat for the last decade.

Worse, a small number of obsessive, high ranking moderators use their positions to stifle dissent and launder their own personal grudges into the record.

I haven't spent too much time looking at Grokipedia and I'm sure it has lots of problems. One doesn't simply write an encyclopedia overnight. And, at version 0.1, this is not even close to a finished project. Furthermore, as an AI product, there is serious risk of content that is inaccurate or even fabricated from whole cloth. One must ALWAYS verify the primary sources.

Still, I think that Wikipedia's mission is too important to be left to just one organization. Here's to competition! May be best encyclopedia win.

35 Comments
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Level 71
Oct 30, 2025
AI?!? Google Gemini thinks 'gold' starts with 'a'. I doubt it'd be any better than that...
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Level 61
Oct 30, 2025
Probably due to the periodic table symbol. But again, I doubt people really need to search that up. Hopefully.
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Level ∞
Oct 30, 2025
I just asked Gemini what letter gold starts with and it told me G.

Who says technology never improves!

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Level 71
Oct 31, 2025
To be fair, I asked what elements of the periodic table begin with 'a'. It provided the 'a' elements, Einstienium, Erbium and Europium, as well as Gold...

Technology is improving, but only for the ones I asked... ask 'K', or 'H' or something. It'd either give an incomplete list, or completely wrong ones...

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Level 78
Oct 30, 2025
I got Google Gemini pro for free as a student and it just sucks so badly lol

If I ever need to use generative AI I just use the free ChatGPT instead of my Gemini pro

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Level 63
Oct 30, 2025
I once told it to do something, it refused. When I said "do it", it stated it didn't know what "it" meant and i wasn't referring to anything.
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Level ∞
Oct 30, 2025
Gemini is much better for images than OpenAI. I haven't used it for other things.
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Level 78
Oct 31, 2025
I've generated images with Gemini pro before. I remember them being decent. But the last several times I've tried to generate images with it, it has told me it "can't make [me] a picture yet, but can find [me] one online."

???

Not sure what's up with that

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Level ∞
Oct 31, 2025
You generate one topless Taylor Swift image and everyone gets mad.

"Fine, I won't make any images"

Google is known for being overly cautious.

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Level 81
Oct 31, 2025
Where can "my friend" view that image?
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Level 79
Nov 2, 2025
I was subscribed to GPT Plus previously and honestly Gemini has been a little better in my experience. Just that sometimes it isn't being direct even when you asked it to, which can challenge patience a little.
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Level 56
Oct 31, 2025
Ai uses a different language that they reconvert into ours so je doesnt have the same letters as us which is why he isnt realy able to answer this tupe of question
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Level 61
Oct 30, 2025
Interesting to see how this will go...
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Level 61
Oct 30, 2025
I think it is great there is a competitor to Wikipedia. I have found Wikipedia to be a pain, especially how they get information. Wikipedia once said 64 Purple Elephants went to my school so trust in Wikipedia is low
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Level ∞
Oct 30, 2025
Yeah Grokipedia will be harder to vandalize.

On the other hand, Wikipedia has lots of people fixing errors. It might be hard to get people to contribute to Grokipedia. I'm not sure how it works exactly, but my impression is that humans can suggest fixes but the AI has the final say. I mean, on Wikipedia you might have your edit reverted by a neckbeard drunk on power. But at least they're a human.

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Level 63
Oct 30, 2025
if you want to make a change on this one, you just can't. If the people on wiki are being dumb, in theory you could argue with them. Here, an abiotic thing has more power than you and there is no recourse
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Level 82
Oct 30, 2025
Tbh this is probably a vanity project by Elon. The articles I've seen are essentially copied from Wikipedia and those that aren't show great political bias and often endorse a variety of conspiracy theories.

I tend to agree that monopolies foster complacency (and Wikipedia probably has been one for too long), but Grokipedia is NOT a good candidate for the position of WP's rival.

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Level ∞
Oct 30, 2025
Who is going to make a better one? One thing I think that's interesting about this project is that it comes at it from an entirely new angle.

There is no way you're going to start a competing Wikipedia naturally. It's the chicken and egg problem. You're not going to rank on Google = no one will go there = no one will create articles.

So you have to do things an entirely different way.

Elon claims that eventually Grokipedia will be "orders of magnitude" more comprehensive than Wikipedia. Right now it is 1/7th the size. But I think there is potential to get much bigger with enough processing power.

It often frustrates me how hard it is to find information on the internet when it's not on Wikipedia. Maybe this can do more? Time will tell.

Sadly, the only reference to JetPunk so far is a list of "companies based in Seattle".

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Level 63
Oct 30, 2025
the reference to JP is stolen from wiki btw
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Level 82
Oct 31, 2025
That's the point, Wikipedia used to have a lot of competition back in the day, but they've just slaughtered it, leading to the current situation where they hold this Monopoly on information.
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Level 78
Oct 31, 2025
Yeah I added JetPunk to the Wikipedia Seattle list so that’s definitely just copied
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Level ∞
Oct 30, 2025
You're right about the copying though. The first article I checked was just a copy of Wikipedia:

https://grokipedia.com/page/Quantum_leap

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Level 83
Oct 30, 2025
If it’s anything like Grok I’m sure half the articles are racist conspiracy theories or nude Taylor Swift pictures no one asked for.
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Level ∞
Oct 30, 2025
I've got bad news for you @Dimby. There aren't any pictures yet. But, will Grok really make nude pictures of celebrities? That seems bad. I could test it out but I don't want to get on a list.
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Level 83
Oct 30, 2025
I saw on an BBC article that Grok generated unsolicited explicit images and videos of Taylor Swift. I can’t verify, but seems like something Musk would do.

BBC News

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Level 78
Oct 30, 2025
Yes, I had rolled my eyes when I first heard about it and read some pages. I had not however considered how it can add a little extra competitive push to Wikipedia though, that’s a great point!
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Level 27
Oct 30, 2025
I don't really have a problem with Wikipedia but I suppose the monopoly angle makes sense, it's good for information to be checked by multiple bodies.

But Grok is not the alternative I'd want to see to... well, anything, really. And definitely not Wikipedia.

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Level 63
Oct 30, 2025
Lol all the training data will just be wikipedia, so just stealing the already unpaided volunteerism. Also, its pretty bad.

Also, there's no concept of re-directs or synonyms in this thing, and no photos, tables (the one i did see was a copy of wiki) or links either. Also, its style of writing is just...off

Sticking w wikipedia.

I also sincerely worry that now people will even more so just trust ai written sources as facts, which is even worse that it's tainted by Musk and how he want people to view him.

ohh and half the references dont work as links!

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Level ∞
Oct 30, 2025
That's why it's version 0.1.

For the record, I don't plan on using it (much) either, but I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

Imagine if you used GPT 1.0 and then said "AI will never be able to write a paragraph". I'm not really sure you understand the project if you think all the training data is just Wikipedia. It's definitely not.

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Level 61
Oct 31, 2025
As an editor of Wikipedia myself, we'll see how this goes. Wiki isn't perfect and I have experienced stuff like edit wars and mostly editors and even moderators who are annoying and may fight over details that won't change anything. Also, especially in smaller languages (like Greek) there has been a lack of updating in a LOT of stuff, which is a problem.
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Level 83
Oct 31, 2025
Wikipedia is obviously not the be all end all for information on the internet, nor should it be, so I kind of agree with the competition point you brought up.

However everything else about this is horrible, me personally, I'll never use AI for casual searching, other than looking for sources on niche topics, it's good at that, but people who have switched exclusively to AI searching I'll never understand.

Obviously smart and knowledgeable people will be able avoid these issues but I'm not hopeful at all for kids growing up with this, or the older generation. I've already seen how my parents lose all critical thinking skills, when an AI confidently spouts misinfo. That's just how people get when so much info is easily and readily available, at least the only other place that has this, Wikipedia, is run by real people and not owned by some wannabe Tony Stark.

We are gonna witness the internet be eaten alive when slowly every page is written with something without a soul.

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Level 68
Oct 31, 2025
between the scramble editor mess that is Wikipedia, or an AI that can have errors at times...

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just give me Wikipedia, at least they have sources.

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Level ∞
Oct 31, 2025
Grokipedia also has sources. Would be completely worthless without them.
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Level 27
Oct 31, 2025
part of my problem with AI sourcing is that AI often prioritizes finding and presenting an answer over validating the sources. one of the reasons Google’s AI summary is often inaccurate is because it gets so much information from Reddit
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Level 46
Nov 2, 2025
But still nothing compares to the good old Wikipedia