we are not nitpickers. The problem is that people like you want to use the word 'fruit' in multible senses. We'd only like to know, which meaning you are using.
To start with I don't understand what you are accusing the Quizmaster of saying, but for some reason, and it's probably just me, but anytime I hear the phrases: "people like you", "you people", or "those kind of people" I am automatically offended and rarely listen to anything else that the speaker has to say. Are you well enough acquainted with the Quizmaster to judge his/her intentions? I'm always amazed when a completely innocent comment or word is twisted to make it something more than it is. It is obvious from the correct answers that there is no implied slur, judgement, or condemnation intended. I seriously doubt that it would have crossed the mind of anyone here to put the word "fruit" into any other context until you unnecessarily raised the red flag of indignation. Also, I'm on this site too and I would appreciate it if you did not include me in your collective "we". If you have something to say speak for yourself. Thank you.
Oranges and tangerines are very different fruits, even if they have a common ancestor. Not only their taste, but the shape and how you eat it are different. If you don't know that probably tangerines (or oranges, or both) are not very common where you live.
Nope. Mandarin oranges are actually one of the three original citrus species from which most modern citrus derive (along with pomelo and citron). \
Oranges are a hybrid of mandarin oranges and pomelos, as are grapefruit, but with more pomelo contribution.
Lemons are a more complex 3 way hybrid between all three, as are the more exotic citrus like bergamot.
To caveat the above, some varieties of mandarin orange sold in stores do have some degree of pomelo admixture, but regardless mandarin oranges are not a crossbreed of oranges. The inverse is closer to the truth.
Here's a neat chart that visualizes some of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_taxonomy#/media/File:Citrus_tern_cb_simplified_1.svg
Sugar cane is definitely eaten! But - that's besides the point. Watermelon *is* a fruit, both technically and for culinary purposes. Squash is a fruit but not a culinary fruit. Rhubarb is an example of a true vegetable which is used like a fruit for culinary purposes.
The truly egregious grouping is "mango/guava". They aren't remotely related or at all similar. It makes as much sense as a "watermelon/peach" category because those fruits sometimes appear together in fruit salad.
At least clementines and tangerines are closely related genetically and visually. Clementines just have a bit more pomelo DNA.
They also grouped pomelo and grapefruit when grapefruit are pomelo hybrids with substantial mandarin orange DNA, and are closer genetically to oranges than pomelos.
Lemons and limes are also distinct hybrids.
But citrus DNA is so messy and overlapping that some degree of more-or-less arbitrary grouping is necessary unless you want to either have a single category for all non-kumquat citrus, or treat every cultivar as a distinct fruit.
This quiz seems to divide based mostly on appearance and taste rather than genetics, which is fair IMO.
The instructions hint that you shouldn't count tomatoes since you would "be wise" not to include them in a fruit salad. So would you include a lemon in a fruit salad?
If you want to use the botanical definition here, then you can't limit "fruit" to tomatoes. Botanically, a cucumber is a fruit, too. So are squash, avocados, and eggplant. And peppers.
Plus, beans are fruit. So are nuts, and grains (wheat, oats, barley...).
The reason we have the fruit/vegetable debate for tomatoes but not for these other things is, I believe, because of a US Supreme Court case in the 19th century that referred specifically to tomatoes. The distinction entered the public consciousness and has never left, it seems.
The pawpaw that you’ve heard of probably isn’t the same as the pawpaw they’re referring to. Pawpaw is an Eastern US fruit rarely sold commercially that most people have never seen let alone tried. Papayas are not native to the US. The two fruits are not classified in the same genus or even order.
But I guess in some parts of the world, outside of the US where American Pawpaw is endemic, they call papayas papaw or sometimes pawpaws. So it can be quite confusing for Americans, particularly those in the east where pawpaws grow naturally.
Oh my god, ya'll. It's not that hard to follow instructions. You probably know what a 'traditional' fruit is. you're not being smart, you're being pretentious. XOXO
Tangerines should really be grouped together with oranges. If melons are grouped together with canteloupes, then tangerines should be with oranges. We might be talking about different species vs different subspecies, but in terms of actual taste and appearance, there is no more difference between oranges and tangerines (of which there are MANY different varieties of each) than there is between melons and canteloupes.
By the way, I don't appreciate trying belittle my wisdom solely for the fact that I enjoy my fruit salad of tomatoes, pickles, bell peppers and avocado/olive oil. I wish such dumb/ignorant quotes wouldn't get so popular.
But do you actually call that a "fruit salad"? If someone ordered a "fruit salad" in a restaurant, is that really what you would serve them?
Generally speaking, fruit in the culinary sense means the sweet and/or sour-tasting produce of certain plants. Nuts are hard, oily, non-sweet produce that grow in shells; vegetables are other savory or non-sweet plant produce; herbs and spices are plants parts primarily used for the flavor they impart (as opposed to their actual matter); and grains and cereals are small, hard, dry seeds from grasses. The edges of these categories can be fuzzy — carrots and sweet potatoes are both sweet, but are treated as vegetables, for instance — but it's generally how things are classified. Tomatoes, cucumbers, bell peppers, etc. are primarily used for their savoriness, and so are, culinarily speaking, not considered fruits.
I rushed to type "tomato" at the first second of the quiz. But then I read the bullet points located below the description of the quiz, and it hit like a slap in the face LOL
we are not nitpickers. The problem is that people like you want to use the word 'fruit' in multible senses. We'd only like to know, which meaning you are using.
Oranges are a hybrid of mandarin oranges and pomelos, as are grapefruit, but with more pomelo contribution.
Lemons are a more complex 3 way hybrid between all three, as are the more exotic citrus like bergamot.
To caveat the above, some varieties of mandarin orange sold in stores do have some degree of pomelo admixture, but regardless mandarin oranges are not a crossbreed of oranges. The inverse is closer to the truth.
Here's a neat chart that visualizes some of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_taxonomy#/media/File:Citrus_tern_cb_simplified_1.svg
At least clementines and tangerines are closely related genetically and visually. Clementines just have a bit more pomelo DNA.
They also grouped pomelo and grapefruit when grapefruit are pomelo hybrids with substantial mandarin orange DNA, and are closer genetically to oranges than pomelos.
Lemons and limes are also distinct hybrids.
But citrus DNA is so messy and overlapping that some degree of more-or-less arbitrary grouping is necessary unless you want to either have a single category for all non-kumquat citrus, or treat every cultivar as a distinct fruit.
This quiz seems to divide based mostly on appearance and taste rather than genetics, which is fair IMO.
Plus, beans are fruit. So are nuts, and grains (wheat, oats, barley...).
The reason we have the fruit/vegetable debate for tomatoes but not for these other things is, I believe, because of a US Supreme Court case in the 19th century that referred specifically to tomatoes. The distinction entered the public consciousness and has never left, it seems.
But I guess in some parts of the world, outside of the US where American Pawpaw is endemic, they call papayas papaw or sometimes pawpaws. So it can be quite confusing for Americans, particularly those in the east where pawpaws grow naturally.
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By the way, I don't appreciate trying belittle my wisdom solely for the fact that I enjoy my fruit salad of tomatoes, pickles, bell peppers and avocado/olive oil. I wish such dumb/ignorant quotes wouldn't get so popular.
Generally speaking, fruit in the culinary sense means the sweet and/or sour-tasting produce of certain plants. Nuts are hard, oily, non-sweet produce that grow in shells; vegetables are other savory or non-sweet plant produce; herbs and spices are plants parts primarily used for the flavor they impart (as opposed to their actual matter); and grains and cereals are small, hard, dry seeds from grasses. The edges of these categories can be fuzzy — carrots and sweet potatoes are both sweet, but are treated as vegetables, for instance — but it's generally how things are classified. Tomatoes, cucumbers, bell peppers, etc. are primarily used for their savoriness, and so are, culinarily speaking, not considered fruits.
https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1016885-tomato-fruit-salad
https://thefancypantskitchen.com/recipe/tomato-and-summer-fruit-salad/
https://streetsmartnutrition.com/peach-tomato-burrata-salad/
I would call these fruit salads
https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1016885-tomato-fruit-salad
https://thefancypantskitchen.com/recipe/tomato-and-summer-fruit-salad/
https://streetsmartnutrition.com/peach-tomato-burrata-salad/
Just a few examples