The US is one of the highest because of its four top cities: New Orleans, Chicago, Detroit and Washington DC. If we took those cities out, then the US would not make this list. Those four cities are the strictest over gun control in the US. Honduras has the most per capita. Swtizerland has the least murders per capita. Honduras bans guns, Switzerland REQUIRES citizens to own guns. This is why we don't need to ban guns.
Right because if you have a problem with something you should do nothing to try and address it. George Burns lived to be 100 years old. Aaliyah, who according to friends never drank or smoked, died when she was 22. So obviously if someone has lung cancer the solution is to smoke more cigars.
Legislating against anything is pointless because criminals won't obey the laws anyway. This is why there's no point in making murder, rape, or theft illegal. Also why we don't license people to drive cars. That just creates a hassle for law-abiding citizens since those who will drive without knowing are won't stop anyway and there's no point trying to stop them.
I'm not going to argue the validity of gun control, but @manchesterutd10 is incorrect. This isn't hard to look up. Remove the number of murders committed in those cities, and the U.S. is still easily on the list.
Completely wrong manchesterutd10. The states with the highest murder rate are states with little to no gun control. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate. Give a look at the top 15 States and let me know how many voted Republican in the last election (answer=11, including the top 4). If looking only at gun related murder, give a look at this list: http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/21/ (give you a hint, 14 of the top 15 are Republican). Alaska is at the top. Then you can go back and establish a more informed opinion about gun control.
Switzerland does not require citizens to own guns. It requires citizens to serve in the military, and while they're in the military, of course they own guns, but citizens who aren't in the military are absolutely not required to own guns, and most citizens don't own guns. The Swiss have around 25 guns for every 100 residents. Americans have around 125 guns for every 100 residents (which is incredible when you consider how many people have never owned a gun). Moreover, there are strict rules regarding the possession and treatment of guns, e.g., guns need to be disassembled and locked up when in the home. Conceal/carry permits are very rare. There are lots and lots of laws regarding Swiss gun ownership. We can have rational discussions about gun rights, but cherry-picking and egregiously characterizing information from NRA memes does not help anything. Manchester's comment is unmoored from fact, and should not be considered in any discussion about gun rights.
Yes, those 4 cities are the most dangerous because of gun controls. They definitely did not bring in stricter gun controls in response to being the most dangerous. I'm sure you have the data to back this up, showing that they were peaceful utopias before some lunatic implemented gun controls.
Not really. You could still carry knives to "defend yourself", but let's be completely honest. Both the perpetrators and the victims of knife crimes in London are those are already involved with gangs/violence. Gangs stab each other. Teenage boys stab each other based off of who's involved with what dodgy situation. Ordinary citizens do not need guns to hold themselves, because too many people cannot be trusted with one
Sure if you really want to kill someone and you can't kill them one way, you are going to do it another way, but that is sort of irrelevant. It is about the impact on total numbers.
It is not like knives were not available before.
I'm sure if you make all 'actual" weapons go away the number of people murdered with scarfs will go up too..
i did not know this stuff. but i dont want to but great quiz tho. look me up on search to play my quizzes and comment. if u do, ill play all of ur quizzes next weekend
(in French) Et le gouvernement n'arrive pas à contrôler les tensions du peuple et il doit certainement y avoir encore plus d'assassins mais qui ont réussis à ne pas se faire prendre.
I think better parameters should be noted considering almost none of the terrorist states ranked. I'm thinking not everyone or everything considered intentional is being counted.
Per the source, the stats exclude deaths from wars/conflicts, so e.g. the wars in Somalia or Iraq and Syria are probably excluded. The data is most likely based purely on murder convictions, and terrorists often aren't convicted of anything - especially in states where there's active wars going on.
People are loving to bash the United States and pretend Europe is a safe haven. But let's remember, which continent imperialized the vast majority of the world? Europe, specifically the United Kingdom, Spain,and France. Which countries abused these colonies and pushed most of them into extreme poverty? Europe again. Which continent hosts numerous, numerous genocides on a large scale, the most recent being on the Balkan Peninsula? Europe! So yes, while Europe does have their lovely gun control, are they really that much better than any other place in the world? Not really. #ProudTurkishCitizen #TurkeyIsntEurope
So things that occurred over 20 years ago (for the Balkans wars, other issues are much older) are relevant when comparing current murder rates - maybe European countries are doing something right?
Not to disagree with your point about pretentious Europeans projecting their own insecurities, but... it's pretty funny that you end your rant about European colonialism and genocide with "#ProudTurkishCitizen"... might want to look up the history of the Ottoman Empire sometime. On a website not in Turkish. Perhaps as told from the Armenian, Kurdish, Greek, English, Palestinian (Jewish), Arab, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Serbian, Romanian, Russian or Byzantine perspective.
And imperialism, and war in the Balkans is relevant to gun control, because.......... By the way, not to downplay the horror of European imperialism, but you might like to look at the USA's current involvement in Puerto Rico. Or it's interference in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and others. Which, yes, admittedly, some European countries were sadly involved in as well.
It's relevant because hundreds of years of exploitation made European countries the richest while simultaneously making their colonies poverty stricken
Sorry digger, you do realise that the USA is an archetypal settler country don't you? That it was created by European colonialism? That its 'manifest destiny' relied on mass slavery and genocide of the indigenous population?
Have to quibble a bit with this. Manifest destiny didn't rely on slavery. In fact, slavery was illegal in the western states, and most of the "genocide"/Indian wars you're referring to happened after slavery was abolished.
This sort of violence is definitely cultural/more modern. It's all in Latin America for the most part. (Countries with huge populations shouldn't count). Some countries were exploited/extracted from much worse but this level of violence isn't shared there like in Asia. It's all to do with American demand for drugs. These drugs fuel violence in the source countries distributing them. Colonisation ended ages ago in Latin America. It is not Spain's/Portugal's fault anymore. It is their own
Many of those road accidents could be intentional.. Whether the intended goal was murder or not. I have seen too many road rage videos, and people giving others a shove to "teach them a lesson" etc.
All of these added up equal what, 200k a year? Add up the deaths per year of these countries and I'd imagine we're talking somewhere around 70 or 80 million/year. So 3 deaths out of every 1000 caused by murder in the countries with the most murders in the world. That sounds kinda pretty damn safe to me, it's far more uplifting than worrisome.
Indonesia's absence surprised me, as well, though if the numbers I found and my math are correct then Indonesia's population x its very low murder rate (0.5 per 100k) gives it only about 1/3 as many murders as El Salvador.
Again taking this quiz in 2023, again wanted to make a point, how I am surprised by the absence of these two countries. It is hard to believe, they could be better off than Bangladesh for example.
Wouldn't it be better to have murder rate per 1,000 population? This more or less correlates with population size. Also, it's conventional to call them 'developing' rather than 'underdeveloped' countries. It just sounds, you know, nicer.
People talk about Japan and gun control a lot, but they began the process of banning guns as early as the 1600s, when arquebuses were fairly common among the peasantry who as conscripted infantry and decided battles. The Tokugawa not only rounded up private weapons and disarmed all commoners, but largely demilitarized private society and engaged in no major wars for most of its existence. The samurai were disarmed in the late 1800s taking away swords and replacing them with a large standing army, but these persisted until the US occupation in 1945. Guns continue to trickle out of US bases around the country, and there was a mass shooting at a gym in Sasebo as recently as 2007, after someone had acquired a shotgun. Gun control is surely worthwhile, but it can't be done only by legislation banning guns. Disarming a population is a messy process that can take generations, and is undermined by a large military and a militarized society. Gun control legislation itself will never be enough.
yeah but after the government took away the guns, then everyone learned karate which was deadlier than any gun, so they kind of shot themselves in the foot.
Considering it's about the number of people murdered and not percentage, it stands to reason that the countries that have the most people are going to be among the highest number of murders. Make it percentages and I would bet many, including the US, is removed and more European countries will be added. It doesn't help that the US is being invaded by many people that make up the rest of the list/
And yet when you order the figs available by per capita the USA appears at number 65 and is the first of the "developed" western world countries to appear and way way way above most of the others who don't start to appear until number 136 (France) on the list...so your argument does not stack up ;) ...try again mate.
see for yourslef at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country,_region,_or_dependent_territory
It is incredible how much El Savador cleaned up under Bukele. Certainly at a price, but still. I wonder if in a few decades, he will be celebrated as a hero or seen as a villain just like Philippines' Duterte is now.
A very small percentage of the population commits the majority of the crime. In US cities, it's common for certain people to have over fifty arrests. Judges who live out in the suburbs just keep letting these people out over and over again to terrorize the rest of us.
But regardless of whether you think Bukele is barbaric or not (I lean slightly towards the barbaric side, but I didn't have to live in El Salvador), it's not going to be sustainable for more than a decade, if that.
Jamaica should be on here it has one of the highest rates of murder and other violent crimes in the Western hemisphere. But other than that great quiz!
Legislating against anything is pointless because criminals won't obey the laws anyway. This is why there's no point in making murder, rape, or theft illegal. Also why we don't license people to drive cars. That just creates a hassle for law-abiding citizens since those who will drive without knowing are won't stop anyway and there's no point trying to stop them.
It is not like knives were not available before.
I'm sure if you make all 'actual" weapons go away the number of people murdered with scarfs will go up too..
(It's black people)
Over twice as likely to die on the road just quietly going about your business, than in a murder.
Does this not bother you?
see for yourslef at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country,_region,_or_dependent_territory
The vast majority of people on "death row" will die of old age.
But regardless of whether you think Bukele is barbaric or not (I lean slightly towards the barbaric side, but I didn't have to live in El Salvador), it's not going to be sustainable for more than a decade, if that.