I was amused reading a news article about it, watching people fill out the ballots which appeared to be monolingual in French that asked if French should be dropped. They're going to have a lot of work to do.
Why should an African country not have use a European language as their official language? They speak Bambara as a lingua franca in this region and they will not have a hard time adjusting to this switch
It is part of the controversy over present-day French relations with former French colonies, as well as the replacement of pro-Western governments in Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger, leading to the formation of an alliance.
Unfortunately Palestine is not recognized as a country by Jetpunk, otherwise the Israel question could've been followed up by "Suffers 20,000 deaths (and counting) from an act of revenge"
I mean, if you can count 75+ years of settler colonialism, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and genocide "revenge." Don't pay any attention to Gaza/Palestine not being a "country" - the focus here is just plain old pro-Zionism.
Is the side with the most casualties automatically the victim?
During WW2 there were a lot more German civilians who got killed than British or American. Does that make Germany the victim here? Or maybe Germany started to attack and therefore had to pay the price for that?
When thousands of terrorists which control a certain territory decide to slaughter innocent people, including beheading babies, burning children, raping women, killing and kidnapping more than 1,000 civilians, they know the consequences.
When terrorists hide in hospitals, schools and between "innocent" civilians, they know the consequences. And they know that people from around the world will see the results and automatically blame the other side, simply because it is bigger and stronger. They count on this propaganda. Unfortunately, they are succeeding, as your comment proves.
That doesn't change the truth. A country has the right to defend itself. Good that they are doing that.
Yes, many German civillians were just as much a victim of WW2 as civilians from other countries.
20,000 people have died in Palestine since Israel launched their attack. Most of these are innocent - Hamas doesn't have anywhere near that number of members. Many of the people killed were children, sick, elderly and pregnant people.
There's plenty of footage out there that you can see for yourself... a bunch of kids playing on the street, then a car drives by with a suspected terrorist in it - and WHAM - the whole street is blown up, along with the kids. The killing is indiscriminate.
In your last paragraph, are you saying that because terrorists hide amongst innocent people, the innocent people deserve to die?
But that is exactly the awful outcome of the actions of Hamas. If they cared about their own civilians they would never do such horrible crimes.
Unfortunately, they didn't leave them any other choice.
The terrorists (which include more people than you think) hurt Palestinians as well as Israelis.
And as for innocent people, there are a lot of civilians in Gaza who are not officially a part of Hamas, yet they cooperate with them, as seen in October 7th. Their "Innocent" people participated in the massacre, killed, stole, kidnapped and more. In fact, some of the Israeli hostages who are still at captivity are kept in apartments of those who are not considered terrorists. So as you can see. a lot of people who we think of as innocent are actually part of the terror actions.
Come on bombing any place isn't how you fight against a terrorist group, it's just collective punishment. If Israel was only fighting against Hamas their politicians wouldn't call for nuclear bombs.
"Do you suggest that a country suffering from 1,000 casualties should response in killing 1,000 exactly?"
No, and also not 20,000. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. An eye for 20 eyes is just evil. Sure the US did the same after 9/11 (except they attacked the wrong country) but the majority of conflicts in modern history didn't end by simply outkilling your opponent.
First of all, there's a big difference between a conflict and what has happened in October 7th. I can't think of such a shocking action in modern history.
Second, it seems that you are confused.
Hamas is evil. Israel's reaction is a nation trying to defend itself. The Israeli army doesn't intentionally kills children or other innocent people. That is the big difference. It kills terrorists and destroys Hamas ability to repeat their actions in the future.
I would be glad to read your ideas for a better way to react. I'm sure that you have a rich experience in the area, since you know so much about this subject.
It should still be in here. 20,000 deaths and counting, mainly civilians and children, in what appears to be an attempt to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip through the systematic loss of life and destruction of civilian infrastructure. This is going to have long-lasting consequences and what 2023 will be remembered for, not Saudi Arabia buying Neymar out or South Korea having a low fertility rate.
I agree, that the Palestinian deaths ought to be acknowledged, but still, the question only asks what country Hamas attacked, not how Israel retaliated. A similar question would be something like "in 2006, Hezbollah forces in Lebanon attacked which country?" We all know what happened then, and we all know what happened now. If anything, it should make the question easy to answer.
The clue also may sound less "politically charged" if the wording was changed from 'suffered' to 'sustained'.
Nagorno-Karabakh isn't an enclave of Armenia. It's recognized as part of Azerbaijan by every country in the world. And the residents weren't forced to flee at all, they evacuated voluntarily despite the fact they were offered a citizenship by Azerbaijani authorities. Please correct this
If it was recognised by everyone as part of Azerbaijan, then why would Azerbaijan need to send tanks in? Also there is some evidence that Azerbaijan is not sticking to it's resolution to uphold Armenian culture in the enclave, so they're not really the good guys (neither are the Armenians really, but your post gives Azeris too much credit).
Even the Armenian Prime Minister recognized it as part of Azerbaijan. They sent tanks for the same reason Ukraine sent soldiers to fight the Donbas militants. There was an armed group of secessionists who no one (again, not even Armenia) ever recognized as independent and who have since dissolved.
I do not understand this thinking. The clue is accurate in every sense and does not deny or discredit what happened to the Palestinian people. Whence this notion that we always need to reference both sides of every dispute or we're partisan? The clue does not deny how Israel responded. We all know how Israel responded. The clue only asks which country Hamas attacked. Why do people confuse pedantry and cavil with enlightenment?
In what way is it politically motivated? It's describing the 7/10 Terrorist attack only.
I don't know if it's right to compare but that's on the same note as 2996 people died in 9/11 (fact) but not mentioning the deaths in the wars that followed.
The event in question is just the terrorist attack and not the following war.
Just look up the stats of how many Palestinians were killed by Israelis vs the opposite, in the past... years, months, decades, doesn't matter the answer will be the same.
Once again, for some reason you look at this as a contest.
The numbers are not the issue here.
The issue is who tries to ensure peace in the area, which if you know your history, you're probably familiar with the enormous compromises that Israel has suggested during the last decades, and who's only goal is to demolish the right of another nation from living. Looking at numbers without knowing the history is pure, well, ignorance.
Wow another flawless argument! I mean seriously? 'If Palestinians could kill all Israelis they would, but Israel currently could kill all Palestinians and they're not so that must mean Israel is in the right.'
Oh bravooo, I'd never thought of it so objectively! Maybe check your biases or do the tiniest bit of reflection before asking what's politically motivated about 'how things happened' in the most cherry-picked and reductionist terms possible.
There's a literal genocide going on and you choose to talk about the 1000 deaths from Hamas instead of the millions from Israel which lead to the response. Ok.
I forgot what this quiz was, so for the Who crowned Charles III question, I tried every variation of the Archbishop of Canterbury and Justin Welby... Got there eventually.
Disappointed that there is no mention of the genocide happening currently... it's the biggest news of 2023 that tens of thousands of people especially children have been murdered by Israel...
Mention of the attack on October 7th and the Houthi forces but no mention of the genocide committed by the IDF currently.. or the raids in West Bank.. or even the desecration of Holy Sights for two of the world's major religions..
I actually don't believe that this is an actual genocide. A genocide is when people are purposefully targeted for no other reason than their ethnicity. This is happening and has happened in many places around the world, but not here. The huge death count in Gaza is real, but the Israelis are not targeting the innocent people simply because they are Palestinian. It is true, large numbers of innocent people are being killed at the hands of the Israelis, but the innocent people are not the targets here.
Wikipedia says "The strikes hit specifically protected locations, including hospitals, markets, refugee camps, mosques, educational facilities, and entire neighborhoods. A group of UN special rapporteurs asserted that Israel's airstrikes are indiscriminate, stating that the airstrikes are "absolutely prohibited under international law and amounts to a war crime". Israeli army spokesperson Daniel Hagari said that "the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy"
Yeah c'mon y'all, what's wrong with bombing the life out of a tiny strip of land because of a terrorist attack? Who wouldn't do that (and apparently much worse), I mean there's no other option, right? If the US did that nobody would be complaining, right? Because human rights abuses are acceptable if you have a good reason, right? Don't give this person the nuclear codes!
I'm sure you have a better idea of how to deal with a terror organization of tens of thousands of people hiding in schools, hospitals and neighborhoods.
Let's here them out, because you are for sure an expert in that area.
No I'm not an expert about combatting terrorism and never claimed to be, but the notion that the best way to work against Hamas terrorism is by bombing the crap out of the Gaza Strip is completely ridiculous to me. Israel is one of the most developed countries in the region, and it's a stain on its reputation and conscience to be doing what they're doing, contrary to what you seem to be saying. If they wanted to address the issue in a more humane way I'm sure they could. It's not my responsibility to advise them or come up with ideas, I'm simply pushing back on the rhetoric you employ.
I agree with others that the phrasing of the Israel one is one sided. It seems to bury the lede, which is that Israel has killed more than 20,000 Palestinians, mostly children, largely through indiscriminate air bombings. The horrors being perpetrated by Israel in Gaza is by far the biggest news story of the year.
Love you Quizmaster but it's pretty cowardly to still have not altered the Israel question by now, given the very valid criticism and suggestions you've received in the comments there.
This feels like a quiz where it is worth disabling comments. As much constructive criticism there is, I think comments here can get too controversial that it turns into an argument and not actually related to the quiz.
2.8 million tons vs 2 million tons of bombs dropped
https://web.archive.org/web/20231203202817/https://gsp.yale.edu/sites/default/files/walrus_cambodiabombing_oct06.pdf
Is the side with the most casualties automatically the victim?
During WW2 there were a lot more German civilians who got killed than British or American. Does that make Germany the victim here? Or maybe Germany started to attack and therefore had to pay the price for that?
When thousands of terrorists which control a certain territory decide to slaughter innocent people, including beheading babies, burning children, raping women, killing and kidnapping more than 1,000 civilians, they know the consequences.
When terrorists hide in hospitals, schools and between "innocent" civilians, they know the consequences. And they know that people from around the world will see the results and automatically blame the other side, simply because it is bigger and stronger. They count on this propaganda. Unfortunately, they are succeeding, as your comment proves.
That doesn't change the truth. A country has the right to defend itself. Good that they are doing that.
20,000 people have died in Palestine since Israel launched their attack. Most of these are innocent - Hamas doesn't have anywhere near that number of members. Many of the people killed were children, sick, elderly and pregnant people.
There's plenty of footage out there that you can see for yourself... a bunch of kids playing on the street, then a car drives by with a suspected terrorist in it - and WHAM - the whole street is blown up, along with the kids. The killing is indiscriminate.
In your last paragraph, are you saying that because terrorists hide amongst innocent people, the innocent people deserve to die?
But that is exactly the awful outcome of the actions of Hamas. If they cared about their own civilians they would never do such horrible crimes.
Unfortunately, they didn't leave them any other choice.
The terrorists (which include more people than you think) hurt Palestinians as well as Israelis.
And as for innocent people, there are a lot of civilians in Gaza who are not officially a part of Hamas, yet they cooperate with them, as seen in October 7th. Their "Innocent" people participated in the massacre, killed, stole, kidnapped and more. In fact, some of the Israeli hostages who are still at captivity are kept in apartments of those who are not considered terrorists. So as you can see. a lot of people who we think of as innocent are actually part of the terror actions.
Is this a contest?
Every country in such a horrific event would act the same, and probably worse. History shows that.
But only because it's Israel, it is wrong and "not proportionate".
This is hypocrisy at best.
No, and also not 20,000. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. An eye for 20 eyes is just evil. Sure the US did the same after 9/11 (except they attacked the wrong country) but the majority of conflicts in modern history didn't end by simply outkilling your opponent.
Second, it seems that you are confused.
Hamas is evil. Israel's reaction is a nation trying to defend itself. The Israeli army doesn't intentionally kills children or other innocent people. That is the big difference. It kills terrorists and destroys Hamas ability to repeat their actions in the future.
I would be glad to read your ideas for a better way to react. I'm sure that you have a rich experience in the area, since you know so much about this subject.
The clue also may sound less "politically charged" if the wording was changed from 'suffered' to 'sustained'.
I don't know if it's right to compare but that's on the same note as 2996 people died in 9/11 (fact) but not mentioning the deaths in the wars that followed.
The event in question is just the terrorist attack and not the following war.
Please enlighten me.
The numbers are not the issue here.
The issue is who tries to ensure peace in the area, which if you know your history, you're probably familiar with the enormous compromises that Israel has suggested during the last decades, and who's only goal is to demolish the right of another nation from living. Looking at numbers without knowing the history is pure, well, ignorance.
The other side - a country which defends its people.
Where is the comparison?
What is politically motivated by that?
That is how things happened.
Be sure that if Palestinians had the ability they would have already kill all Israelis.
Israel, on the other hand, has the ability, and despite that, is not doing so.
Which millions?
What response?
It seems like you got confused.
Mention of the attack on October 7th and the Houthi forces but no mention of the genocide committed by the IDF currently.. or the raids in West Bank.. or even the desecration of Holy Sights for two of the world's major religions..
"Genocide".
Any country would respond the same, and probably much worse. And rightfully so.
Suddenly it's wrong because it's Israel.
The hypocrisy...
Let's here them out, because you are for sure an expert in that area.
It looks like you are not.
Because it is by far the biggest new story of the year.