diva: I'm a realist. I can talk about God loving or not loving the world the same way I can talk about whether Han or Greedo shot first.
thor: if you believe that the world is controlled by natural laws then this goes against the belief that all things happen according to the will of a deity. We know for a fact that every decision we make is also subject to natural laws: the physics and chemistry of our brains. And if you believe in a creator god that is omniscient and omnipresent and exists outside of time, then this deity created the exact conditions that would lead to all suffering on the planet, whether you decide to label that suffering as natural or not. It knew exactly what would happen should it design the universe as it is and chose to go forward with that design.
Your last five sentences are word salad nonsense.
"Pride goeth before destruction: and an hautie spirit before a fall."
For some reason I've apparently never heard the genesis 45:18 one before...
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