Haiti is a very odd anomaly - it shouldn't be in there, but is generally included on the list - Cuba and the Dominican Republic are the ONLY two other countries in the Caribbean considered part of Latin America. The other countries all speak English, Dutch or French and are not considered part of Latin America - I guess Haiti is included due to sharing an island with the Dominican Republic. But Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago, Jamaica, Dominica, Grenada, St Lucia, Kitts & Nevis, Vincent & Grenadines, Antigua & Barbuda and the Bahamas are NOT part of Latin America and not grouped in. Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana and Belize are also not included despite being contiguous.
The whole reason the region is called Latin America is to include french and portuguese speaking countries, you are thinking of Hispanic America, which is spanish speaking countries only.
portuguese are NOT hispanic. that comes from hispania (spain)
So latin america technily includes haiti and quebec, but hispanoamerica excludes brazil.
I think a much more useful term and the one people actually mean when they say latinoamerica is IBERO america, from iberia, so that includes only portuguese and spanish speaking coutries.
Portuguese and Portugal are indeed Hispanic. Hispanic does not equate with Spanish. Originally Hispania meant the same as Iberia (the peninsula itself), but with the Iberian Union and the Castillian rule over the entire peninsula, the idea of being Hispanic and being Castillian-speaking or under Castillian rule were mixed up, so colloquially speaking you could say Hispanic and Spanish are the same thing but in reality they're not. The equation of the two terms was a political thing only.
I studied Portuguese, and we were taught that Brazil was not considered Hispanic, but rather Lusitan, and Anglo-, Latin- and Luso-America were all distinct.
Canada is not a majority French-speaking country, and therefore not part of Latin America. Several Caribbean island countries are also not part of Latin America, and neither is Guyana or Suriname.
There are varying definitions of what defines Latin America. The general definition is that it includes all of the countries in America south of the US where Latin-derived languages (sometimes including their creole languages) prevail or are designated as national/official languages: Spanish, Portuguese, French. So, countries like Guyana, Suriname, Jamaica, Belize and some others in the Caribbean are not included as either English or Dutch prevails there (but if you count the creole languages as well, then St. Lucia & Dominica would be part of it, as French-based languages are dominantly spoken there. The same case with ABC Islands as well, as Papiamento is dominant there, which is a Portuguese-Spanish-based creole). Quebec in Canada and St. Pierre & Miquelon are usually not included due to cultural and geographic differences.
Oh, and sometimes French-speaking regions are not considered part of Latin America. This is why many question people like Haitians as being "Latinos".
Another problem is whether Latin America is defined by language or culture. If we look from the cultural side, Haiti often won't fit in, because as far as I know, their culture are distinct from countries usually considered part of Latin America such as Cuba or Dominican Republic.
Anyway, these are my thoughts on the definition of Latin America. Its meaning is still ambiguous and can be interpreted in a lot of ways.
Re: the Haiti debate - French is a Romance language, derived from Latin, just like Spanish and Portuguese. So even though it is different, it still fits as part of "Latin America."
This is my firts comment here, love this site but have to say. I'm brazilian, I live near to Campinas and I study there, the information is wrong. nowadays, the city has about 1 million and hundred thousand inhabitants, far away from that. Hugs.
I agree with Bebedouro that Campinas has 1 million inhabitants. In addition, being the largest in the interior of Brazil and the second largest non-capital, losing to Guarulhos. But I also agree with contos.
They spoke in urban areas, and the case of Campinas is correct in the quiz. If it were the municipality, I would have complained about my city, Belo Horizonte, because BH, has half the population said in the quiz. And its urban area has 5 million inhabitants.
City (or município in brazilian portuguese) and Metropolitan Areas are two different concepts. Usually jetpunk considers the metropolitan area, I personally like it better this way.
Campinas metropolitan area is made by 20 cities and totals more than 3 mi habitants. Guarulhos is part of São Paulo metropolitan area, so it's every habitant of Guarulhos was counted by São Paulo.
You can check it even on wikipedea. Campinas was officially turned into a metropolitan area in 2000.
The City of São Paulo (just the municipio) for instance has about 12 mi habitants, but when you count the metro area it counts about 21 mi habitants (Guarulhos included).
"Latin America is a region of the Americas, that comprises countries where Romance languages are spoken; primarily Spanish and Portuguese, but also French. It consists of twenty sovereign states which cover an area that stretches from the southern border of the United States to the southern tip of South America, including the Caribbean." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America
Technically speaking, Haiti is part of Latin America but as we know society and truth don't always get along. It's more about social paradigms and lines that were drawn in the sand a long time ago. Dominicans who are afro-latino sometimes will refuse to admit it...even though with some of them it's obvious that they have some african heritage. Also culturally Haiti is different from the rest of Latin America, indentifying best with Jamaica, Belize and it's land neighbor D.R., even though the majority of Dominicans dislike Haitians and normally get along better with Puerto Ricans and other Hispanic countries.
Would you call a Haitian a latino? I dont think so. Not even they call themselves that way. Haitians are Caribbeans (by culture), whereas Dominicans are fully latinos, regardless of race.
Saying that French speaking countries fall in the concept of Latin America is not correct at all. Latin America is about the culture, not about the language. If it were solely about the language, then I expect Quebec to be considered as latin american also.
And BTW, there are many American cities which are already latin american by culture, like Miami for example. I just dont think you could include Miami on this list, because the USA as a whole is not Latin American.
Also latino is not a race. Indigenous people from latin countries are latino. European-descended people from those countries are latino. African-descended people from those countries are latino. My friend who was born in Venezuela to Chinese immigrant parents is still latina. All of the mixed-race families that come out of those cultures are latino. Cousins could be separated across Haiti and DR and one of them will be latino because he was raised in that culture and the one raised in Haiti wouldn't be latino. Afro-latino just means someone has African descent and was raised in a Latin American culture. It doesn't actually mean anything about mixed race.
Latino is about culture and nationality, not race.
I am surprised not to find Quito on the list and Maracaibo instead? The Biggest Cities of the World (extreme) includes Quito? And if I remember right Maracaibo is not on that one?
Yes. Salvador was capital of Brazil from 1549 to 1763, when the capital pass for Rio de Janeiro, and this fact atract many people to over there. Many people go to Salvador too, because the beaches, the monuments, etc. Actually, Salvador has 2.9 million of people.
The term doesn't seem to be used now for Canada, but it was coined specifically by the French in the 19th century and at the time did include the French speaking parts of Canada
I never understood why Belo was accepted as a type-in for Belo Horizonte. It'd be similar to accepting Buenos for Buenos Aires or Salt for Salt Lake City.
Yeah. I live in Belo Horizonte, and the city, is most populous that Paris for example. BH has 2.5 million people, but I never imagine BH among the first. And here, is BH, no Belo KKKKKKKKK
Latin America, as stated in another post, is distinct from Hispanic America. "Hispanic America" are those countries in the Americas which speak Spanish; whereas "Latin America" includes those that speak French and Portuguese.
I agree with this comment. Latin America is often used interchangeably with "Central America" (whether or not that's correct is another conversation) so providing a definition of what "Latin America" is for this quiz would be helpful.
Whereas Latin America problematicly includes french speaking places like Quebec and Haiti; and Hispano América excludes brazil; Iberoamerica refers only to those languages originating in the iberian peninsula.
Latin America isn't really consistently defined, and it depends on what definition you use--in this case, the quiz seems to really ask what are the biggest cities in Latin American countries, so on that basis, they could not be included. It would probably be an improvement to say this in the quiz description or caveat.
Since Latin America is more of a grouping of convenience or cultural colloquialism, I could see why you'd want to include these cities, but I suspect it would explode into a debate that's probably not worth it; we don't need a hundred messages arguing about the degree of irony in the the phrase "Capital of Latin America" or anything.
So latin america technily includes haiti and quebec, but hispanoamerica excludes brazil.
I think a much more useful term and the one people actually mean when they say latinoamerica is IBERO america, from iberia, so that includes only portuguese and spanish speaking coutries.
Oh, and sometimes French-speaking regions are not considered part of Latin America. This is why many question people like Haitians as being "Latinos".
Anyway, these are my thoughts on the definition of Latin America. Its meaning is still ambiguous and can be interpreted in a lot of ways.
a) Geographic difference
b) Montreal is majority white
They spoke in urban areas, and the case of Campinas is correct in the quiz. If it were the municipality, I would have complained about my city, Belo Horizonte, because BH, has half the population said in the quiz. And its urban area has 5 million inhabitants.
Campinas metropolitan area is made by 20 cities and totals more than 3 mi habitants. Guarulhos is part of São Paulo metropolitan area, so it's every habitant of Guarulhos was counted by São Paulo.
You can check it even on wikipedea. Campinas was officially turned into a metropolitan area in 2000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campinas_metropolitan_area
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regi%C3%A3o_Metropolitana_de_Campinas
The City of São Paulo (just the municipio) for instance has about 12 mi habitants, but when you count the metro area it counts about 21 mi habitants (Guarulhos included).
Therefore, The quiz is correct.
Saying that French speaking countries fall in the concept of Latin America is not correct at all. Latin America is about the culture, not about the language. If it were solely about the language, then I expect Quebec to be considered as latin american also.
And BTW, there are many American cities which are already latin american by culture, like Miami for example. I just dont think you could include Miami on this list, because the USA as a whole is not Latin American.
Latino is about culture and nationality, not race.
Miami ?
Whereas Latin America problematicly includes french speaking places like Quebec and Haiti; and Hispano América excludes brazil; Iberoamerica refers only to those languages originating in the iberian peninsula.
So Iberoamerica = hipanoamerica + brazil
Therefore...
Since Latin America is more of a grouping of convenience or cultural colloquialism, I could see why you'd want to include these cities, but I suspect it would explode into a debate that's probably not worth it; we don't need a hundred messages arguing about the degree of irony in the the phrase "Capital of Latin America" or anything.