Why do you have this weird fixation on defending the accounts of the gospel as if they are historical fact when we know that they are not?
This isn't to argue for Bethlehem, but to say that insisting on Nazareth is a dogmatic position, rather than a reasonable one. Nazareth isn't "one hundred and eleven", but "twelfty take nine" that someone made up as they didn't like the idea of "eleventy-one" that someone else made up (though the whole 111 thing was a terrible analogy anyway).
floydro: you might want to double check the ide that Luke suggests the census was in the time of Herod the Great. Which King Herod Luke is talking about at a particular time is never specified by him, and Herod's name doesn't come up in relation to the census. But what else can we expect from dogma-based, rather than evidence-based, arguments. ;)
It was that way for me. I was born in one town, then my folks moved away when I was about 2 or 3 years old. Grew up in a different town some distance away. So the one town was my birthplace (my "Bethlehem," so to speak), while the other town was my hometown (my "Nazareth"). The same thing happened with my brother.
Is there any actual evidence that shows that Jesus WASN'T born in Bethlehem? I'm not aware of any. So if not, then the gospel, whether you believe in it religiously or not, or whether you believe it's accuracy or not, is the best account that we currently have of where He was born.
Compare it to watching tv in a household, one person says they ALwayys have to watch shows the other ones likes, while in reality it might be 3/20 but just ones he really hates, and dont realize 12/20 are programs HE chooses (but somehow he feels that doesnt count, "yea but thats the news, yea but thats a great show, yea but we Allways watch that" etc. So he unconsciously downplays it. (and perhaps a bit consciously..) Because he thinks it is logical to watch them or doesnt even realize it anymore.
people's vision are often skewed because attention is drawn to things that stand
same goes for local knowledge a pubquiz in country A will have other questions than in country B
≈ 1412 - Domrémy, Kingdom of France
1762 - Stettin, Prussia
1867 - Warsaw, Congress Poland
1897 - Atchison, Kansas
1926 - Mayfair, London
1997 - Mingora, Pakistan
(edit: I just noticed there is a #2, which is a bit better balanced. It's admittedly difficult unfortunately.)
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