I believe it is originally an Oriental word of some kind. Japanese maybe? Stemming from a fish paste called Kat Siap or something like that. Tomatoes weren't added until MUCH later. No sources...just a scattered memory of something I read long ago.
We have ketchup and ketjap. Two entirely different things (though one might be inspired by the other at one point in time, or they both mean something like sauce. I haven't looked up the etymology either.. (recently, might have once.. vague memory...)
My understanding was that the whistle is a wolf whistle, catcalling is any sort of unwanted, sexual comments from strangers. May be different in different places
Stuff that's not on this quiz: catalog, catarrh, catawba, catchy, catechumen, category, caterwaul, catharsis, cathedral, catheter, cathode, cation, catkin... just to name a few.
I'm from the generation that secretly took it as a compliment when men wolf whistled, even though we were taught that ladies always ignored them. How times have changed, and I sometimes feel sorry for men trying to figure out how to sincerely compliment a woman without being thought of as sexist.
I won't lie; I still take it as a compliment sometimes. Depends on how they do it/what they say, of course. Vulgar is always vulgar, but a whistle or couple words acknowledgment without any follow-up creepiness *is* flattering, even if I understand how it can be sexist. I mean, if I spent time trying to look good, and anyone notices, be it man or woman, it's nice. I usually just acknowledge it with a smile or thanks and keep going. If a random guy is expecting something more of a little whistle, that's his fault.
well the crazies who want to identify everything as sexist or part of the "system of oppression," if they had their way, would re-categorize everything "White" "cis" males ever do in their lives as rape. Fortunately I think they're still in the small minority. Most people still have some sense. Though I've noticed idea creep. Those videos about what a horrible ordeal it is for a sexy woman to walk around receiving compliments all day were quite popular... and now it's starting to penetrate JetPunk, too.
Or... we could stop looking for reasons to be offended by literally everything. Such as the category of compliments that we receive. Some people have got it so hard.
Catcalling isn't a sexist whistle, I know it happens more commonly to women but men experience it too, the only time I have seen it personally is when my friends mum whistled at a male jogger while driving us home from paintball...
There's nothing at all sexist about a compliment, no matter how unwelcome or how inartfully delivered. There's nothing at all sexist about being attracted to someone, or expressing that you are attracted to someone, or noticing that someone is attractive, or speaking bluntly or honestly about sex or sexual attraction. Jokes that contain sexual innuendo or references to body parts are not sexist. Commenting on, criticizing, or appreciating a person's appearance, behavior, or performance is not sexist, regardless of which gender the comments etc are directed at. Behavior directed at anyone is not sexist merely by the fact that it is directed at a person of a particular gender.
Sexism is "discrimination or prejudice against someone on the basis of their sex." A catcall is not discriminating against anyone. It's quite the opposite. It's inviting attention from someone. It's a (inelegant, perhaps) token of approval. People liking the way you look is not oppression.
Of course the person that makes a quiz titled "Countries With the Hottest Women" and description "This quiz is completely and totally objective in every way. I mean objectifying." would say catcalling is a show of "appreciation."
This sort of word creep is harmful because, for among other reasons, it diminishes the weight of valid accusations of sexism. If we live in a world where looking at someone's Facebook page is called stalking, and having consensual sex with someone who a week later regrets it is called rape, we're going to confuse people into thinking that those terms represent things that aren't actually that bad. It's a disservice to people who have actually suffered through real abuse or oppression to start conflating their very serious trauma or injustice with trivial behaviors and minor annoyances.
^ I was going to say that it's not as simple as your previous posts as, due in large part to a historical culture of widely accepted sexism, when a compliment is given about someone's (especially a woman's) appearance it can sometimes be viewed as equating "You look good" with "The only valuable thing about you is your appearance".
But... then I read this post and you make a very good point
I'm surprised how many people are familiar with the term "Catechism". I don't think I've ever heard it before. Maybe it's a European thing. Or maybe there are more religious people on JP than I assume.
Only got 40%, 8/20. I have never heard of the words “catfight,” “catnap,” “catcall,” “catnip,” “catfish,” “catsuit,” “catatonic,” and “catgut,” but I knew “catacylsm,” “catechism,” and “catsup.”
Sexism is "discrimination or prejudice against someone on the basis of their sex." A catcall is not discriminating against anyone. It's quite the opposite. It's inviting attention from someone. It's a (inelegant, perhaps) token of approval. People liking the way you look is not oppression.
But... then I read this post and you make a very good point
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