Some of these numbers are particularly impressive for the smaller countries. In terms of millions of people per top 200 university, you get: 1. Switzerland 1.14, 2. Netherlands 1.42, 3. Sweden 2.00, 3. Denmark 2.00, 5. UK 2.17, 6. Australia 2.67, 7. Belgium 2.75, 8. Canada 4.00, 9. USA 6.67, 10. South Korea 7.29, 11. Taiwan 7.67, 12. Germany 8.10, 13. France 13.00, 14. Japan 15.75, 15. China 115.17.
Maybe if you look at the American universities...Not when you look at the Canadian ones. IME American universities are as much about developing sport talent as intellectual talent, but that is more of a unique American trait, it doesn't carry over to other countries. I think that's why Uni sport in the US is so popular...
College sports in the US is a huge deal and it can be hard explaining how much this is true when I travel internationally because I don't think it's quite the same anywhere else.
However... it's rare that an American university is known for *both* academics and athletics. MIT, Harvard, Yale or Princeton are never going to be in the NCAA Final Four. Duke and Georgetown both have pretty respectable basketball teams. UVA has a decent football team. UNC Chapel Hill has a good basketball team. Florida has a good football team. But out of the top 50 universities in the US (academically), those might be the only ones with nationally relevant athletics departments.
And while we're on the topic, you forgot Michigan, Cal, Stanford, USC, Texas, UCLA, Notre Dame...
All top 50 universities with extensive, nationally successful sports teams. In other words, it is definitely not "rare" for an American university to be known both for athletics and academics.
In fact, a hefty proportion of American Olympians come from fairly prestigious universities. Why? Probably because training for the Olympics requires a similar kind of dedication as excelling at a highly competitive university, and additionally, both require a lot of money. In other words, there's a logical overlap of academics and athletes, both on a socioeconomic level and on a personal level.
If something happens one way 80% of the time it's fair to say that happening the other way is rare, and some of those schools you listed are kind of stretching the definition of "nationally successful," even in the single sport that they excel at.
There's probably a correlation between elite universities and achievements in certain sports, but I'd be surprised if there are enough sports in that category to affect the overall Olympic medal tally. GDP, national specialisation, genetics, immigration-friendliness ... these probably account for almost all of that.
A lot of these countries have a large services and banking industry. You need well-educated people for that sort of job.
it is estimated that over 60% of Dutch nationals have a university, college or similar higher education degree. There is a terrible shortage of plumbers, electricians and carpenters though.
Most of those baristas have degrees in Women's Literature or Gender Studies, which barely even counts as an education. More like a certificate for surviving a 4 year long circle jerk. If you get a degree in something that is actually useful, there are jobs to be had in the USA.
What's wrong with women's literature? Literature has been a pretty standard university subject for centuries, and the focus has been on men's literature for pretty much all of that time, but the moment someone suggests women are added to the curriculum, people like you go absolutely up the wall for some reason.
kal I strongly disagree. I, as well as many people I know, have had an absolutely brutal time trying to find a job after college, even with STEM and business degrees. There are just too many college educated people and not enough jobs to go around.
True, QM. One of my nephews was an electrician which led to him creating his own successful manufacturing business, and another nephew is a carpenter and his son is a welder. Neither of them are ever out of a job, and both earn on the same level as my college-educated children. But I do agree with Kalbahamut that some college degrees are better than others when looking for jobs in the real world. Hang in there, TinklePork. I hope you find something soon.
@Tinkle.. ::shrug:: some fields are easier to find jobs in than others. Your friends might have wanted to do more research into this if what they wanted was expeditious employment and they were not, for example, following a passion or interest.
The year I graduated I got my degree issued on January 17 and was hired, granted a visa, relocated and in Korea working at a new job by February 1.
Also, I know many women, like my friend's lovely, highly intelligent, successful neurosurgeon wife, who understand that Gender Studies is total BS and the fact that it even exists as a subject is both an insult to her as a woman and detrimental to academia as a whole. She would have a lot to say about such ignorant and offensive comments.
Instead of blindly taking on board the opinions of what you read on tumblr and reddit? Whatever works for you. I prefer not taking on any opinions blindly. And nice job trying to sidestep the fact that you were asserting that you speak for all women, and with one example I proved you wrong. Don't over-generalize so much and it won't be so easy to make you look foolish.
stubart seems to have since deleted his comment over-generalizing about women's opinions that I was responding to (about how they would all disagree with me). I'll take this as a tacit admission that I was right, and also that he disagrees with Homo.
Because they're automatic qualifiers by winning their conference tournament. Plenty of teams with losing records make it into the tournament every year because they win their conference, and winning a conference can be a cake walk depending on the level of competition. Not saying that Princeton is bad, but using them isn't a great example.
Surprised that Russia not have a single university on this list. I know the quality of education has slipped substantially since the days of the the USSR, but surely at least some of the Russian universities would still be considered top tier. I'm not faulting Quizmaster, more of a commentary on the ranking methodology used by topuniversities.com
The problem with the methodology is that they mostly take into account research done in english, so other big languages in the academic world like russian or spanish are not counted.
If that's true then it's an incredibly stupid way to evaluate them - sounds as though the evaluators themselves didn't get beyond high school. It also invalidates the entire list and, regrettably, this quiz.
Nothing stupid about it--virtually all the important academic work done in the world is done in English, regardless of where the researchers are based, because almost all serious peer-reviewed journals are in English. English is the lingua franca of the educated world.
Yes, if it really is about English-language scientific papers, then I completely agree. Russian universities have written most of their works in Russian (for some reason, everything in Russia is always aimed at the inside of the country, not at the international level), only recently has everyone come to their senses and called to learn English in order to take information from international works (that is, 90% of scientific knowledge), and not only from Russian.
The problem is that someone, somewhere in our past convinced us that manual labor was menial labor and that only a college degree would suffice. That's why today we have glut of Law School graduates, many of whom are toiling at city/state agencies at a meager salary and who have to pay a fortune to the electricians, plumbers and other manual laborers whom they were so much better than.
On what is it based? Italy invented universities, and still Italian graduated are the most welcomed allover the world. Are they geniuses? Do they born with the instruction already inside their brains?Or maybe is the instruction system quite good?
Also, many italian people can't get a title in italian universitied, then they go to USA and have the best valutations. Anything strange?
Finally, all main european countries are in this list. Also Sweden or Netherlands or Switzerland, that are very smaller in population. Also Spain, that is similar, but with less tradition. But Italy doesn't appear.
QS's methodology factors Academic Reputation, Employer Reputation, Faculty/Student Ratio, Citations per faculty, International Faculty Ratio, and International Student Ratio. "Academic Reputation," the most weighted metric, is determined by surveying some 80,000 academics every year on their opinions about various universities' teaching and research quality.
Thus not counting.
However... it's rare that an American university is known for *both* academics and athletics. MIT, Harvard, Yale or Princeton are never going to be in the NCAA Final Four. Duke and Georgetown both have pretty respectable basketball teams. UVA has a decent football team. UNC Chapel Hill has a good basketball team. Florida has a good football team. But out of the top 50 universities in the US (academically), those might be the only ones with nationally relevant athletics departments.
All top 50 universities with extensive, nationally successful sports teams. In other words, it is definitely not "rare" for an American university to be known both for athletics and academics.
In fact, a hefty proportion of American Olympians come from fairly prestigious universities. Why? Probably because training for the Olympics requires a similar kind of dedication as excelling at a highly competitive university, and additionally, both require a lot of money. In other words, there's a logical overlap of academics and athletes, both on a socioeconomic level and on a personal level.
it is estimated that over 60% of Dutch nationals have a university, college or similar higher education degree. There is a terrible shortage of plumbers, electricians and carpenters though.
The year I graduated I got my degree issued on January 17 and was hired, granted a visa, relocated and in Korea working at a new job by February 1.
I don't know how they rank universities; I think the Indian universities suffer in the rankings because they don't produce enough research.
Also, many italian people can't get a title in italian universitied, then they go to USA and have the best valutations. Anything strange?
Finally, all main european countries are in this list. Also Sweden or Netherlands or Switzerland, that are very smaller in population. Also Spain, that is similar, but with less tradition. But Italy doesn't appear.