Ok, I'm not sure when this was done, but you say "updated for 2013", well as of Nov 25 2013, the New York Rangers were valued at 850 million. http://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/
The Buffalo Bills just sold for $1.1 billion and Forbes actually valued them at $935 mil right around the time of the sale. Would be cool to see what else has changed...
Endurance, reflexes, extremely high levels of motor (as in body movement) skill perfected over years of practice... not to mention in some races the driver's being a few pounds overweight could cost them a race so they have to be as fit and weight conscious as Olympic wrestlers. These guys aren't going out for a Sunday drive with the cruise control on. Why don't *you* try driving an extremely temperamental precision-tuned 1,000 horsepower machine at 180 mph for 500 miles without stopping?
The vehicle is just a tool. Like a baseball bat. Diminishing the skill of the person using that tool would sort of be like saying, "why did people think Babe Ruth was so great? It was the bat that made all those balls fly out of the park. He was just holding it and swinging it forward." This is very much the same as trying to say professional drivers don't need any skill because all they're doing is sitting in a car and turning left. Go for a ride with one of those guys around a track sometime, see what they can do up close and how effortlessly they can do it... or, try what I said above and see how incredibly hard and grueling it is. You'll get a new appreciation.
Much as I admire the drivers of these fast vehicles I think the main factor in being the best is the car itself. Almost any of the top 20 drivers would win if they had the same cars as the leaders. It would only be a true sport if all the drivers had the same vehicle. Most races the pole position (great advantage) and the lap times are only differing by 0.25 of a second and the best cars give this advantage.
Maybe so but then you could argue that minor differences in equipment (even the friction coefficient of a swimmer's Speedos) can be the difference between victory and failure. And even if you are 100% correct and what determines the winner in auto racing is the machine and not the driver, it's still true that every one of the drivers on the track is amazing at what they do and I think they qualify as athletes.
While it's true in any sport that it's important to use the most effective equipment, in almost all other sports all competitors have the opportunity to choose what they consider to be the most effective equipment. In tennis, if one manufacturer had a clearly better racquet than all the others, everyone would start using that racquet and tournaments would still be about who plays the best. IMO F1, although (or perhaps because) the competitors are all amazing drivers, is not primarily a test of who's the best driver, any more than a horse race is primarily a test of who's the best jockey.
eh... I might be ignorant here but I feel like F1 drivers have a LOT more control over the outcome of a race than a jockey. In some places they have replaced the jockeys with robots. They are little more than ballast. The jockey's chief role is to be as tiny and underweight as possible, and then hang on. I think. Maybe there's more to it than that.
and if the drivers' contributions were really so minimal then there would not be legendary drivers out there who win many different races driving for many different teams in many different cars... it would be all about teams and manufacturers and nobody would know who the drivers were. But that's obviously not the case.
Didn't know musicians lose multiple kilos and are subjected to multiple factors of G-force during every performance. Do they risk injury and death if they lose focus for a split sec? Do they win a world championship trophy?
Physical fitness is essential to being competitive in F1. Drivers have to apply 160kg of force to the brake pedal to brake efficiently (and they do it hundreds of times per race), their average hear rate over a race is often over 170 bpm and they need insanely strong neck muscles to withstand the G-force they experience. Up until recently they also had to maintain very low body fat because being lighter gave you a sporting advantage- more ballast left to balance the car better, though it's not as extreme anymore when a minimum weight of a driver with the seat has been stablished at 80kg a few years ago.
F1 drivers spend just as much time working out as other athletes. You can't drive F1 cars fast without very high level of strength and endurance.
I'm American and I got Manchester United and City. Woo hoo! Two soccer/football teams committed to memory and so many more to go. But I'm trying, world.
The only soccer teams that show up on this list are really big internationally famous ones with large followings outside of their respective countries. I don't watch football at all and I got all of them on the first go except for Munich, I think.
Almost certainly San Antonio (with a username of punkybrewster). NBA Spurs have won 5 championships since they drafted Tim Duncan, now retired but they are still winning.
Once I ran out of Premier League clubs and had entered Real, Barcelona and Bayern, I just started typing in random words that sounded like the kinda things Americans would name a sports team. This proved a surprisingly fruitful technique.
I'm very surprised (like, the most surprised I've ever been by a Jetpunk quiz) that Cleveland Cavaliers isn't on the list. I'm not american and I don't watch the NBA, but haven't they been in about 4 finals since year 2010?
I tried Cavs, then Cavaliers full expecting them to be on the list. But looking them up, they have a value of 1.2B and the bottom of the list is 1.75B. But in 2010 they were only worth 250 million - their value is climbing quickly now that they are making it to the finals.
Name all of the NFL teams, all of the MLB and NBA teams in Boston, New York, Los Angeles and Chicago and the most popular soccer (football) teams in the world and you'll get almost all of them.
I'm so dubious of anything that sites Forbes as source. I can't wrap my head around the "fact" that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are more valuable than global soccer teams like PSG or Juventus.
It's simply a function of the NFL being so valuable as a league. (Though clearly not enough to guarantee contracts or actually do serious research on CTE.) Cost has nothing to do with overall quality off a team.
I kind of agree with @martay. It's hard to see how the L.A. Rams can be worth $3 billion with the tiny fan base they currently have. But then again, sports teams are worth as much as someone is willing to pay. The value of a sports team is less a reflection of the underlying economics and more about the desire of billionaires to own a sports team.
Yeah, another who is surprised by some of the teams on the list. I'm not convinced that 'all' those American sports teams are worth more than the vast majority of the big European football sides (thos enot on the list), but I guess it depends how you choose to measure it.
I'm also very surpirsed to see Arsenal on the list ahead of Liverpool. I would have thought the latter had a much bigger global fan base. Maybe the value aspect includes stadium capacity and thus ability to earn income from match receipts.
Ohh and as a Brit, I need way more time for this quiz. My knowledge of US sports teams is probably only slightly better than the average American sportfan's knowledge of European football teams. The answers come to me, but slowly.
Well the Rams were great last season and are currently great again. They play in a huge market, and will have partial ownership rights to a brand new stadium that is currently being built in a planned community. Plus the ownership stake comes with a percentage of shared profits from the world's most profitable sports league, so...the fact that the Rams don't have a ton of fans *right now* (although knowing people from LA, the number of fans is doubling daily with the Rams' winning record) doesn't factor into the math too much.
The fans were already with their senses. And so were 90% of all Native Americans polled who saw no problem with the team name, which is not and never was a slur. Of those 90% most either liked the team name and logo, or just didn't give a crap.
However, what did eventually happen is that the team owners decided that they could make more money trying to appear woke and racially conscious by giving in to the demands of a vocal, misguided minority. And so they did.
Bravo, another stunningly cold-hearted reply. The poll you reference has come under fire for multiple methodological issues. Had a good chuckle thinking about Dan Snyder, surely one of the worst NFL owners in the league's history and certainly one of the sleaziest, deciding that somehow caving to the "woke mob" and changing the name would make him more money. Washington is one of the worst teams to play football this century and they did the right thing in changing their crappy team's name, not least because they represent the capital of a nation with a repulsive history of the systematic destruction of indigenous peoples. And the best they could come up with for a replacement was "Commanders" and they still play, on the whole, atrociously bad football. The DMV should consider itself blessed to even have an NFL franchise.
Not sure how I missed Barcelona -- I guessed Forca Barcelona, Forca Barca, Barcelona FC... Every possible combo but the right one. Or I was spelling something wrong. Frustrating either way!
Ugh so many made up sounding American teams. Surprised there’s that much money in the cringe inducing, boring and life sapping things that they claim to be sports. Suppose selling weak beer and repeatedly having fans shout DEFENCE makes lots of money.
"So many made up sounding"? Pretty much every American team name up there is a real word thing. And if these are all "cringe inducing, boring and life sapping", what sports aren't to you? Give me a break!
Be nice. Not every sporting event can be as exiting as a week long cricket test match during which most of the fans in attendance are napping and none are really sure what's going on. Or a scintillating game of the foosball that ends in a 0 - 0 tie after being interrupted every 15 minutes by some "athlete" falling to the ground nursing his knee like an infant trying to get ice cream when someone on the opposing team brushed up next to him. And yes team chants are so much more boring than getting crushed to death against a chain link fence by a bunch of soccer hooligans, granted, but some of us have lives to go back to after the sporting event is over.
I happen to like American football, and to watch it regularly, but, to be fair, it's interrupted way more often than any actual football match I've ever seen. It's the ultimate get-drunk-and-take-a-nap sport, tailored to people with a 12-second attention span. It's 3h of commercials occasionally interrupted by very short bursts of play. Again: I like it, but let's try to be somewhat fair here.
American football wishes it was interrupted "every 15 minutes". It's also by faaaar the professional sport with the most severe injuries, despite the players being heavily body-armored.
I don't get why anybody thinks any sport is for people with a 12 second attention span. What are you doing in between downs? Not paying attention? Not analyzing?
Whether they win or lose, I love watching them. My favorite part of a loss is seeing the inevitable close up shot of Jerry Jones' botoxed, scowling face as he seethes in his owners box. A win is pretty ok too.
The fact that a advertising block with some interruptions of a few man in armored suits running after a egg shaped ball is the most present in this list is just showing how much of a joke America is and how meaningless this 'sport' actually is.
I think it actually shows how filthy stinking rich America is, don't see how that makes the whole country a joke. I'd prefer football to watching a bunch of sweaty astronauts getting rich off of Saudi and Russian oil money drive stupid fast cars around a track for an hour and a half.
Not necessarily. I was Germany for the first time since Covid this summer and was shocked by the number of NFL branded jerseys, t shirts, jackets and caps I saw. It wasn't a huge percentage but any time I was in a bigger city I would see 20 to 30 people in NFL garb. A couple of times a day when people figured out I was American, I'd get asked NFL questions some of which I was unable to give an intelligent answer to. I would go days before seeing NFL stuff in 2019.
It's very common in a lot of Europe for US sports gear to be worn purely as fashion, especially with some teams. For instance, Raiders gear has been popularised by early 90s West Coast rappers, and most people wearing it couldn't name a single player on that team (or indeed tell you that it's a team, or what sport it plays). Similar with Yankees caps.
I fully understand why F1 Teams are in this quiz, but the official names (Scuderia Ferrari and Mercedes-AMG F1 Team) would help some people understand that this is the sports team and not the carmaker.
F1 drivers spend just as much time working out as other athletes. You can't drive F1 cars fast without very high level of strength and endurance.
I'm also very surpirsed to see Arsenal on the list ahead of Liverpool. I would have thought the latter had a much bigger global fan base. Maybe the value aspect includes stadium capacity and thus ability to earn income from match receipts.
However, what did eventually happen is that the team owners decided that they could make more money trying to appear woke and racially conscious by giving in to the demands of a vocal, misguided minority. And so they did.