London includes around 33 boroughs, of which Greenwich is one (for example, these boroughs have their transport co-ordinated by "Transport for London" and the Metropolitan Police service all those boroughs. Furthermore, they all elect the Mayor of London). The generally accepted delimitation is the M25, which Greenwich is well inside. If you exclude Greenwich, then also exclude the Palace of Westminster and Paddington Station from London, cause they are also outside the City. As the Quizmaster said, no-one excludes Greenwich from London.
You did not specify the London Metro Area, you simply said "London." As a Yank, I assumed this referred to the city proper, and we all grew up being taught about Greenwich Mean Time and the importance of Greenwich, with little or no reference to London at all. That's like saying the Pentagon is in Washington, D.C. It isn't, it's in Arlington, VA. It's in the D.C. metro area, yes, but not the city of Washington proper nor in the District of Columbia. I would just consider rewording to make the intent crystal clear.
A better comparison would be that it's like saying that Coney Island is in New York City. Which it is.
It's not just about the 'metro area' - there's an actual, defined Greater London which consists of the 33 boroughs, of which one is Greenwich. The fact that you were taught about Greenwich Mean Time, but not the fact that Greenwich is a part of London, is a failing of your education providers, not the QM.
Your patronizing attitude towards everyone is making us look bad. Why would American schools standardize teaching about the Greater London Area? Do they teach about the what towns/cities are in the New York Metro area to English students? Do they know the difference between LA and Orange? It's silly to insult Americans for not communicating like Brits, just like it would be silly to insult Brits for not communicating like Americans
I live in Illinois and i couldn't tell you the cities, towns, and villages that make up the Chicago metro area. Much less what is considered "London." I, like other Americans, were taught GMT. So when the question said London, i was like nope...it's Greenwich...can't fool me. Turns out you CAN fool me and it was the only one i got wrong.
jwils79 From a British perspective, when someone refers to "London" the assumption is that they are talking about Greater London including all its boroughs, unless they specify otherwise. The "City of London" is just one small borough, and referred to by its full name. People might say "central/inner London" for the central area (basically Zone 1 on the underground map), but if someone says they are from "London" that could be from anywhere in Greater London and would not at all mean that they live in the City or even central London. I thought the same applied internationally when referring to London. I've often seen international TV mentioning events happening in "London" that are outside the City or central London. The London Riots spring to mind, which happened in places like Ealing and Croydon, well outside the centre.
Maybe it is obvious for the English, but this is not obvious for other countries. Americans typically specify metro vs proper. For example several New Jersey towns are considered part of the Greater New York area, but you would still not be considered in New York.
The definition of rectangle is a four-sided shape where all angles are right angles. That includes squares. So all squares are rectangles, even though all rectangles are not squares! Math is fun.
I must have run into every single one of the 10% who can't converse in English when I was in the Netherlands a few weeks ago. I had to rely on my rudimentary Dutch for most of my conversations.
^ Being able to speak a language and being willing to speak it are two different things. At least a rudimentary knowledge of English is one of the requirements for graduation from secondary school in the Netherlands. (At least when I was a student there).
By that logic it's possible that older people have forgotten most or all of the English they learnt in school, but nobody has been keeping track of the figures
You seemed to have been talking to people that are either 85+ or immigrants haha
Some 70+ or 75+ might not feel confident enough to do so though. (or in some cases stubborn, not sure if that is an age thing or the time period they were raised in. But generally people automatically switch to English when they know or hear that you are a foreigner. They don't even think about it)
I must add there is a slight difference in, well let's call it location. The smaller the villages and more rural, and the heavier the dialect, the greater the chance that they can't (or won't) speak English very well.
Plus there is a big difference between being able to do it, and to have to do it on the spot. I am proficient enough in English to have high level conversations but when it has been a long time I need some time to warm up haha.
I have this even more with German, I can understand 90% of a conversation, but when I have someone in front of me my brain can't produce a sentence. Total brainfreeze
I don't think that's a fair statement to make. I definitely didn't forget that Hawaii exists, but just outthought myself. For many of those people, they probably had an issue with whether the question was asking for the contiguous US or all 50 states included.
I don't think that the question should be changed though, as the other quizzes in this series do specify when it isn't talking about all 50 and it adds difficulty to the question.
The question on the UN’s a trick question. It is physically on the island of Manhattan in New York, NY, USA, but it is legally on diplomatic grounds. I suppose I overthought my answer (I’m from NY, and have seen the building more times than I can count), but if it IS a trick question - and I think it is - it should be removed or both answers accepted.
hm... I knew that France got a lot of its electricity from nuclear but I thought it was more like 30-40% and this was a trick question. I was apparently wrong. Missed that and the prime meridian question. I didn't know Greenwich and London were on the same longitude.
An idea to make this quiz easier would be to use the conventional quiz format; that way the quiz-taker would be able to type in either 'True' or 'False' for each question until they get all of them correct.
"Generally accepted" by whom? I doubt that anyone in the UK thinks that the area inside the M25 is all in London. And also part of Greater London is in fact outside the M25.
I think we need a primer on what the definition of Geography is...this is more general global knowledge True of False. The amount of a population who are religious is not a geography question, neither are monetary units, employment rates, poverty, etc. Those are sociological and economics questions.
Just to add to your explanations once the quiz is over: Nepal is not the only non-rectangular flag. Both Switzerland and Vatican City have square flags. I know there are those who'd argue that a square is just a special kind of rectangle, but most vexillology and trivia sites include these two as non-rectangular.
This just means that geometry teachers all around the world need to stress more that a square is a special kind of rectangle, and that a circle is a special kind of ellipse.
Just so people running vexillology and trivia sites don't go falsely saying "the Swiss flag is not a rectangle".
Great quiz, though!
It's not just about the 'metro area' - there's an actual, defined Greater London which consists of the 33 boroughs, of which one is Greenwich. The fact that you were taught about Greenwich Mean Time, but not the fact that Greenwich is a part of London, is a failing of your education providers, not the QM.
Some 70+ or 75+ might not feel confident enough to do so though. (or in some cases stubborn, not sure if that is an age thing or the time period they were raised in. But generally people automatically switch to English when they know or hear that you are a foreigner. They don't even think about it)
I must add there is a slight difference in, well let's call it location. The smaller the villages and more rural, and the heavier the dialect, the greater the chance that they can't (or won't) speak English very well.
Plus there is a big difference between being able to do it, and to have to do it on the spot. I am proficient enough in English to have high level conversations but when it has been a long time I need some time to warm up haha.
I have this even more with German, I can understand 90% of a conversation, but when I have someone in front of me my brain can't produce a sentence. Total brainfreeze
I don't think that the question should be changed though, as the other quizzes in this series do specify when it isn't talking about all 50 and it adds difficulty to the question.
Nevermind, it's just next to that island, not on it.
That would be a fun concept though. Create a True/false quiz full of trick questions and then accept both answers for all of them.
This question could start:
"Of the thirty..."
"Of the forty..."
"Of the fifty..."
"Of the sixty..."
"Of the seventy..."
"Of the eighty..."
"Of the ninety..."
And the answer would still be true.
According to my counting, 48 of the 100 poorest countries in the world are in Africa by GDP (nominal) per capita, or 49/100 by GDP (PPP) per capita.
Pretty sobering.
Just so people running vexillology and trivia sites don't go falsely saying "the Swiss flag is not a rectangle".