The commandment is 'Thou shalt not murder.' Frequently mistranslated. Jews were allowed to defend themselves, as in the case of Esther. The commandment specifically meant that the Jews shalt not kill 'in cold blood', or, murder.
Which translation are you claiming is "the one true" translation? I looked up the commandments in several different bibles. The King James and New Jerusalem say "kill" and Life Application, New International Version, New King James, and New Revised Standard say murder. As lawyers say, "It says what it says." Determining what it means has been the cause of unending arguments through the ages.
The definition of 'murder' has also changed considerably since the Old Testament was written. Let's just agree that we shouldn't kill each other if at all possible...
Well yes it would be confusing if you were to try and find what the christian translation was.
But for me as a Jewish person looking as the ones in the quiz I know that those are not the proper translations nor are the fully how we understand them as Jewish people and in context of Judaism.
Which is fine, we are more then happy to stay to ourselves and keep doing our thing as we have for the past several thousand plus years.
The problems really happen when people try to take those christian understanding and translations and try to apply to us and fit us inside of that context and we are like um yeah like that is not really what we are talking about and please leave us alone okay thank you.
it also only applied to members of your own tribe. The Old Testament god was all in favor of murdering other people. He condoned it, he sanctioned it, he ordered it, he gave people super powers to facilitate it, and he frequently did it himself. This included the brutal murder of innocent women, babies, and even acts of genocide.
I'm really tired of the tenth commandment always being summarized as "Thou shalt not covet your neighbour's wife." Sure, those are the words used at the beginning of the verse, but it then goes on to list several other things one's neighbor might have, and concludes that one should not covet anything that is their neighbor's. So summarizing it as shown seems to be indicating that it's about the neighbor's wife, whereas it's really about the coveting.
Yes, the commandment indicates that the neighbor's house, donkey, servants, and wife should not be coveted, among other things. At least the wife came in second on the list of possessions, behind house.
Most people want at least several of the 10 commandments respected in regards to themselves and their family and their property (stealing, murdering, honoring parents, bearing false witness, adultery). People are in jail not because they don't want others to observe the commandments towards them, but because they have tried to give themselves a personal exemption (out of anger, greed, lust, pride, etc) to override the commandment in their specific circumstances towards others.
First, where do you get your 90+ percent - can you see into people's souls and hearts to know that they are Christian? Just because someone may claim to be Christian doesn't make it so. What survey or study are you using as your source? I view the 10 commandments as more of a common sense guide to a happy life rather than just a religious necessity.
They're not actually even a common sense guide, there are numerous problems with them. For example, the 'covet' commandment is calling for the criminalisation of thoughtcrime and I doubt many would agree that is a good thing. At least I hope not.
@pooch "Just because someone may claim to be Christian doesn't make it so." Actually, that is exactly what it does. Likewise if someone says they are fan of popstar x, they are. Regardless of if someone else is more of a fan, or interprets being a fan differently ("I have been to all their concerts, you have not, so you are not a fan"...) (ofcourse not talking about flat out lies and situations where one is trying to fool the other for a joke or something, but talking about how people regard themselves)
It is not like you can pee on a stick and the results comes out positively or negatively.
and looking into their hearts and souls would not be much help either, you would see if someone was good or bad or something in between, and then what? there are both good and bad people amongst christians and non-christians.
Some people looking intently at a peestick... "Congratulations! it's a christian/muslim/atheist!" haha. Could just picture that scenario. Then one is overjoyed and the other goes sobbing and pouting in the corner haha.
This is totally incorrect. YHWH is not correct and neither is Yaweh you will not find any Jewish person who is educated on this and/or religious who will not start laughing if you try and tell us that is what we call our G-d. Same for Jehovah.
of all the sections that was the easiest for me. I consider it a basic element of cultural and historical literacy. But I also used to be a devout Christian who read the Bible.
Don't you think those concepts are generally good for all people to know and adhere to, believer or atheist alike? Don't kill, lie, steal. Honor your parents. Seems like a good idea.
Not at all. And any person, believer or atheist, who doesn't admit that they could improve these ten within 30 seconds is being dishonest.
The first 3 are about god being jealous. Not only is this irrelevant to morality, it just teaches pettiness. As if jealousy is a good thing when in fact it's among the worst of all human traits. Commandment 1 teaches religious intolerance and inspired things like the Inquisition. Commandment 2 and similar rules in offshoot religions have inspired things like the riots and resulting deaths from the Danish cartoon controversy. Commandment 3 and similar rules have resulted in people being killed on charges of "blasphemy" and is antithetical to the superior secular value of freedom of speech.
#4 assigns magical powers to a specific day of the week and also has nothing to do with morality. Remember the punishment prescribed for this (all of these) is death. For picking up sticks or cooking your food on a Saturday. Death.
What if you have something important to do? Like drive your pregnant wife to the hospital? Some observant Jews would put their lives in jeopardy to keep this silly commandment.
#5 is not moral. If you have terrible parents, or abusive parents, or parents who command you to do immoral things, there is nothing wrong with disobeying them.
#6 ... number six!! Took them long enough to get to this one but it's always the one Christians mention first. First of all every society on Earth has come up with some variation of this rule independently. It's a no brainer. But more importantly, the version found in the Bible if you read the context is not an outright prohibition on murder. It's very clear in the Old Testament that this rule only applied to other Hebrews in your tribe. Encouraging tribalism and othering is not a good thing. It might be the root of all evil.
#7 - monogamy is unnatural and marriage and prohibitions against extra-marital sex is all about men with power and privilege monopolizing the best outlets for sex and reproduction while handicapping men who had less. Meanwhile it turns women into property.
#8 - I'm not convinced that the concept of personal property is such a good thing, either. But, okay maybe I could get on board with this one. Though, like #6, it's another no-brainer that almost every society on Earth has come up with.
#9 - also not inherently moral. But there are people so convinced that honesty is always moral that they end up doing evil to avoid telling a lie. Think of the people hiding Anne Frank in their attic. If the gestapo ask who's upstairs, what's the moral thing to do?
#10 - this is advocating the punishment of thought crime and is abominable.
And yet.. not a single thing on here about rape, slavery, child molestation, equality, etc. But... graven images? Yeah, that's covered.
Yeah... one of "those people"... who thinks child rape is maybe worse than drawing a picture. I'm a monster, I know. And good to know you're not one of those people.
P.S. I was responding to a direct question... you inserted yourself into a conversation to announce that you found people (who were not talking to you) obnoxious. You really think being "one of those people" makes you something other than obnoxious? Why are the worst people always the exact things they accuse everyone else of being? Freud had these kinds pegged.
I don't think so. Lid is a word by itself. It doesn't have to be part of another word. Just like "bone" is a word by itself, though you could be talking about a jawbone, collar bone, tailbone, etc. Speaking of.. where is "bone?"
If ass is slang and bum is slang. What do you call it then (ok there is posterior, but I doubt anyone would use that in every day life. All the others I can think of are definately slang, tush, booty. I guess bottom and behind might not be slang, but that describes the location more than the actual thing itself (granted, same with posterior) I might just be missing the obvious here though, but just curious
I'm not sure if this has been amended; I just took the quiz and the group asked for countries beginning with N, however, the answers were all major languages (I am assuming most spoken languages)
Needs more time. At least a minute more. Probably two.
Especially for those of us who aren't from North America and can't instantly knock off 5/6/7+ of the states the Mississippi river borders or the Canadian provinces.
There are no real 'easy' categories there, each one requires a bit of thinking about, even the body parts one is tricky albeit in a frustrating "why can't I get this?' kinda way.
I'm not sure why it's not already alphabetized, but would you mind switching Iran with Iraq in the countries category so it is? The fact that it just so happens to be alphabetized otherwise is really messing with me.
I am wondering that too. I think like 250 million people speak it. I understand speaking a language doesn't make it your "native" language, but I am wondering exactly how "native" is defined here. Does it mean "first language"? If I, a native English speaker, have a child with another native English speaker, and that child is raised in France, is her native tongue English or French? I'm sure the Quizmaster has solid criteria because he always does, but I am curious to know what it is.
How did you make this? The editor only allows eight columns, even after the last update. For the Groups of Things format, it uses the columns as the different answers, meaning I can only make seven answers if I wanted to make a similar quiz.
Never mind, I just used two columns and ten rows and merged all the answers in the first column into the heading for the group and then had ten answers in one column, which were formatted by the Groups of Things button. Here is my finished quiz.
Could have done with a little more time. I got 7 of the 8 lowest answers but missed some sitters including oxygen. Also missed Mississippi as a state bordering the Mississippi and then saw that a third of quizzers did the same
But for me as a Jewish person looking as the ones in the quiz I know that those are not the proper translations nor are the fully how we understand them as Jewish people and in context of Judaism.
Which is fine, we are more then happy to stay to ourselves and keep doing our thing as we have for the past several thousand plus years.
The problems really happen when people try to take those christian understanding and translations and try to apply to us and fit us inside of that context and we are like um yeah like that is not really what we are talking about and please leave us alone okay thank you.
by the time many leave, they have converted to Islam.
It is not like you can pee on a stick and the results comes out positively or negatively.
and looking into their hearts and souls would not be much help either, you would see if someone was good or bad or something in between, and then what? there are both good and bad people amongst christians and non-christians.
That is just false and completely wrong.
What am I doing with my life?
The first 3 are about god being jealous. Not only is this irrelevant to morality, it just teaches pettiness. As if jealousy is a good thing when in fact it's among the worst of all human traits. Commandment 1 teaches religious intolerance and inspired things like the Inquisition. Commandment 2 and similar rules in offshoot religions have inspired things like the riots and resulting deaths from the Danish cartoon controversy. Commandment 3 and similar rules have resulted in people being killed on charges of "blasphemy" and is antithetical to the superior secular value of freedom of speech.
#4 assigns magical powers to a specific day of the week and also has nothing to do with morality. Remember the punishment prescribed for this (all of these) is death. For picking up sticks or cooking your food on a Saturday. Death.
#5 is not moral. If you have terrible parents, or abusive parents, or parents who command you to do immoral things, there is nothing wrong with disobeying them.
#6 ... number six!! Took them long enough to get to this one but it's always the one Christians mention first. First of all every society on Earth has come up with some variation of this rule independently. It's a no brainer. But more importantly, the version found in the Bible if you read the context is not an outright prohibition on murder. It's very clear in the Old Testament that this rule only applied to other Hebrews in your tribe. Encouraging tribalism and othering is not a good thing. It might be the root of all evil.
#8 - I'm not convinced that the concept of personal property is such a good thing, either. But, okay maybe I could get on board with this one. Though, like #6, it's another no-brainer that almost every society on Earth has come up with.
#9 - also not inherently moral. But there are people so convinced that honesty is always moral that they end up doing evil to avoid telling a lie. Think of the people hiding Anne Frank in their attic. If the gestapo ask who's upstairs, what's the moral thing to do?
#10 - this is advocating the punishment of thought crime and is abominable.
And yet.. not a single thing on here about rape, slavery, child molestation, equality, etc. But... graven images? Yeah, that's covered.
P.S. I was responding to a direct question... you inserted yourself into a conversation to announce that you found people (who were not talking to you) obnoxious. You really think being "one of those people" makes you something other than obnoxious? Why are the worst people always the exact things they accuse everyone else of being? Freud had these kinds pegged.
Especially for those of us who aren't from North America and can't instantly knock off 5/6/7+ of the states the Mississippi river borders or the Canadian provinces.
There are no real 'easy' categories there, each one requires a bit of thinking about, even the body parts one is tricky albeit in a frustrating "why can't I get this?' kinda way.