MLB Baseball Groups of Things

Was hoping you were going to find a way to include the greatest outfield in MLB history - on June 21, 1998, vs the Houston Astros, the Cincinnati Reds featured Dmitri Young (LF), Mike Frank (CF) and Chris Stynes (RF) in their lineup. Young, Frank & Stynes!

As for the steroid argument, it is complex and the issue becomes more complex when we factor in that a far greater number of players were using amphetamines, too.

I think PED use should be banned, but I also don't think that all who ever used it should be stripped of their accomplishments or anything. If I had a hall of fame vote, I'd absolutely vote for: Bonds, Clemens, Alex Rodriguez, and Manny Ramirez, but I'd not vote for McGwire, Sosa, or Rafael Palmeiro. That is because I believe that Bonds, Clemens, Arod, and Manny would have been hall of famers without PEDs, and that McGwire, Sosa, and Palmeiro would never have put up the numbers that they did without getting help.

Yes, PEDs would not take someone like me or any non-pro athlete and make him a pro, but when you add it to already good or great players, the results can be huge.

If you or I took PEDs, we would not make the major leagues. But for those alread there, it helps a lot not only in power, but in recovery speed and stamina. Adding PEDs to incomplete players like McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, and many more made them all-star and even at times MVP-quality. When you took a 3-time MVP in Bonds and a 3-time Cy Young winner (and 1 MVP in his own right) in Clemens, then you get the greatest hitter/position player ever in Barry Bonds (4 more post-PED MVPs for a record 7 overall), and the best pitcher ever in Clemens (4 post-PED Cy Youngs for a record 7 overall).

Bonds and Clemens were 2 of the greatest 20-25 players in the history of the game, so when you added PEDs to what was already there, you had THE greatest position player and THE greatest pitcher...but their pursuit of being top 10 hurt their rankings and legacies so that you rarely see them now on top 10-15+ players ever lists, because no one knows what is real and what isn't.