australia, canada, uk and given it comes from a french word and that pronunciation of i is closer to the vowel sound in french presumably most of the french speaking world.
I struggled with the 'course' clue - took me a while to think of 'coarse' as I kept trying 'cause' even though it didn't work the first couple of times I tried it! Anyone else think 'cause' should be acceptable?
Phoenetic spelling of course: kôrs. Phoenetic spelling of coarse: kôrs. Phoenetic spelling of cause: kôz. So, to address your specific question, it doesn't really matter how many people "think" or "feel" that an answer "should" be accepted, because homophones aren't actually defined by opinions.
I apologise, I didn't realise it was linked to phonetics (perhaps this should be explained in the instructions/caveats?). I was just going on how words 'sounded' to me when I say them - this is obviously open to interpretation and dialects/accents can affect how words are pronounced. I would still argue the words do 'sound' the same, which is what the quiz asked for, although not perfectly aligned phonetically and I am entitled to my incorrect opinion :)
That is what I mentioned in my last reply - the quiz states "A homophone is a word that sounds the same but is spelled differently". Perhaps it could be amended to state "A homophone is a word that is phonetically the same but spelled differently" as I don't know the exact meaning of the word homophone and didn't look it up before taking the quiz, so simply went off the instructions. I obviously know now so my suggestion for an amendment would be for others who make the same mistake as me...
Phonetics is the same thing as how words sound. Different accents will have different homophones. But I agree that "course" and "cause" are not homophones. A homophone is a word that sounds exactly the same, not just similar. "Course" has a 's' sound at the end, whereas "cause" has a 'z' sound at the end. Unless you have an accent that I don't know of, they won't be homophones in your accent either.
I'm going to reiterate my heartfelt plea that everyone first look up the IPA/phoenetic spelling of the word you think should be accepted. If it doesn't match the clue word's, then you're incorrect, so please don't post.
It appears this is something you care deeply about. I feel the same way on subjects I am great at but others keep getting wrong albeit with fewer comments correcting people
The "correct" answers will be different depending on your accent. IPA transcriptions are different for a General American accent and a Received Pronunciation (British) accent. There are countless other accents where IPA transcriptions are largely unavailable. As long as you understand that homophones must sound exactly the same then you are probably right to point it out. For example, in my (British) accent "click" and "clique" are not homophones. The difference is the same as between "hit" and "heat".
I don't like being told not to post (unless it comes from the QM.) In my accent whale/wail and whet/wet are pronounced differently. I pronounce the h. Why do you have a problem with people posting that their accents don't adhere to the IPA rules? I enjoy reading all the different ways people pronounce the same words. It's educational.The instructions for this quiz say that the words must sound the same. I agree with others above who said anything otherwise should be stated in the instructions. Just curious, under your source are whey and way homophones also?
I think the issue is people complaining about the quiz or asking for changes to be made based on their accent rather than on the standardized phonetic spelling in major dictionaries and such. I think everyone is probably OK with people sharing their own pronunciations, but not OK with constantly checking the "This comment contains a correction" on things like "bet" and "bat" being homophones.
Based on the way word sounds were taught decades ago, ander217 is correct. Words that start with Wh do sound different than words that start with just a W. However, it seems that schools don't teach this anymore. If you hear someone in their 40s or older say Wh differently that's why.
Yeah the "chaste" one was the big one for me. I know the USA pronounces Ts and Ds the same in some contexts but it's harsh for this quiz to ignore the T sound here.
Correct is insulting. Saying the common pronunciation is better. There are dialects and accents that traditionally use the aspirated "H" in /wh/ pronunciations still.
I agree with gatorsong, and I looked at the website. Their map of the southern US is missing a lot of territory in the upper south where we still use the "hw". I've never heard anyone say "wale" for whale. Apparently the whine-wine merger completely passed us by.
I can understand Taut for Taught. But while "tort" and "torte" may be homonyms of each other, how can they be homonyms for "taught" when "taught" doesn't have an "r"?
That is the wonder of English, and particularly for the “gh” combo - many spellings can be pronounced the same way. Taught and torte are pronounced the same (at least in the generic Southern English accent that I have).
How anyone learns English fluently is beyond me, as it is complicated enough even for those whose first language it is. I guess it comes down to the quality of education, which makes me think of a quote from a German character in a play I once saw: “I like the English. They almost speak as good English as the Dutch”.
Source? LMAO. England pronounces them the same, which means that Europe, Asia, Africa, ANZ pronounce it like this, as they speak English. So just the four continents disagree with you.
"V" and "W" so not sound the same in any native English accent I have heard. However, I suspect short forms are not included as in another quiz in the same series "bi" was not a correct answer for "buy".
Good one. Canada here, and I agree. (So does Merriam-Webster http://www.learnersdictionary.com/qa/pronunciation-symbols-and-variants-for-the-vowel-sounds-in-tot-and-taught)
whale|wail and wet|whet are not homonyms. the pairs rhyme, but if you lookup the phonetics for whale and whet they start with a slight h /(h)/ sound that wail and wet do not have.
Things I have learned from doing all of these homophone quizzes:
1. There will always be a complaint from a British English speaker that a word containing a letter 'R' is or should be pronounced the same as a similar word nor containing the letter 'R'. Example above is 'tort' and 'torte' for 'taut' and 'taught'. Another example is 'manna' for 'manner' and 'manor'.
2. There will be a refutal of the above by a US English speaker. US English is rhotic and British English (RP) is non-rhotic. Get over it.
3. Quizmaster puts these examples in purposefully, then retires, popcorn in hand, to observe the subsequent linguistic fisticuffs.
You make the mistake of dividing it into British and USA English, which I see people do to diminish the population that speak English differently to the Americans.
Lots of countries speak English: India, Nigeria, Singapore, Australia, etc. plus all the European countries that learn English at school. They all speak what you call the "British" way.
I agree. We don't pronounce the "wh" sound at all where I live. If you do, people make fun of you and then make a Stewie reference like you're trying to say "cool whip".
The difference between well and whale is not the wh sound but the vowel sound: well as in el (elevator, el train) and whale as in ale, ail. Regional differences apply, as usual.
'Lien' is pronounced 'Lee-en', 'mourning' is not pronounced 'morning' except in the USA, and 'clique' is 'cleek' not 'click' anywhere. There are colloquialisms and there are things that are just wrong.
I was surprised that nobody else had mentioned lien in the comments up until now. And I also agree with clique. However, morning and mourning are the same in the UK as far as I am concerned
Everytime I see a British-vs.-American-English face-off, I feel like I'm reliving the Revolution all over again. Good fun. I like to pretend that the war really started during a rousing round of scrabble.
Full marks (for once)! Although l hammered on "lean" for well over a minute. Tried everything (line, leen, leign, liegn, lighn, etc) before getting "lien" by fluke (don't even know its meaning).
Agree that I'll should work for Aisle.
Never heard anyone from around here say 'cleek'.
meek=mick in dictionary
"Same" is not the same as "almost same" or "similar". If they're not "perfectly aligned phonetically", then they aren't homophones by definition.
E.g. chased and chaste, I have just a bit more of a "t" sound in chaste.
I did eventually get them all. I always hated the word "jamb" for some reason. Then again, I guess silent B's are pretty unique, eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZmqJQ-nc_s
And since you like websites...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_English_%E2%9F%A8wh%E2%9F%A9
How anyone learns English fluently is beyond me, as it is complicated enough even for those whose first language it is. I guess it comes down to the quality of education, which makes me think of a quote from a German character in a play I once saw: “I like the English. They almost speak as good English as the Dutch”.
1. There will always be a complaint from a British English speaker that a word containing a letter 'R' is or should be pronounced the same as a similar word nor containing the letter 'R'. Example above is 'tort' and 'torte' for 'taut' and 'taught'. Another example is 'manna' for 'manner' and 'manor'.
2. There will be a refutal of the above by a US English speaker. US English is rhotic and British English (RP) is non-rhotic. Get over it.
3. Quizmaster puts these examples in purposefully, then retires, popcorn in hand, to observe the subsequent linguistic fisticuffs.
Lots of countries speak English: India, Nigeria, Singapore, Australia, etc. plus all the European countries that learn English at school. They all speak what you call the "British" way.
A cat has claws at the end of its paws, while a comma has a pause at the end of its clause.
Mourning"
Unbelievable!