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Four years later and back for another round. We survived the last 4 years, so I suppose we'll make it out alive this time around too. See you in 4 more years!
I got most back to 1960, and the first few, plus most that ran unsuccessfully for a 2nd term or had an unsuccessful 1st bid before they won. I also got Al Smith just on a complete guess, whoever that is, when I was typing in random common names.
Same for me; I have only been voting since the 90's; so after that I started with other presidents, knowing that some would have lost their first bid, and after that, it was Smith, Parker, etc- common last names (which is also a fun quiz on here too).
Being the only Republican in the Senate to do his duty and vote to convict and remove Trump distinguished him more in the annals of history than being a losing presidential candidate, and I'm sure he will be remembered more for it.
Germany: Schulz, Steinmeier, Steinbrück, Schröder, Stoiber (S seems to be unlucky) and everyone back to 1949. France: Le Pen jr., Sarkozy, Royal, Le Pen sr. UK: Corbyn, Corbyn, Milliband, Brown. It's good to know at least some of these names, and I'd like to get better at it. Japan: no idea, China: I don't think there's a losing candidate there.
In a century from now, the likes of Dewey (lost in a big upset), Clinton (most successful First Lady ever in her own right), Goldwater (conservative hero) and McGovern (liberal hero) will all be vastly more remember than Romney, McCain and Kerry I suspect.
Clinton will only be remembered as "Bill's wife". Her only success has been riding the coattails of her husband. She is already irrelevant while McCain, Romney, and Kerry are still making things happen
That has no bearing on her accomplishments as First Lady, which were significant by the standards of the role. FDR died while he was president. That doesn't mean he wasn't a good one.
Hilary Clinton was the first woman to be elected by the American people as President. That is an important historical note, even if it only became a footnote because of the antebellum Electoral College system.
I really hope McCain is remembered. I was having a conversation with my family the other day about his time in captivity in Vietnam--not only the torture he went through, but how he refused to be released before his colleagues even when offered to do so. And he did a lot of other great things too, both in his career and his personal life--pushing for immigration reform, campaign finance reform, normalizing relations with Vietnam (even after what he went through), adopting a young sick orphan, and through it all being kind not only to his fellow Republicans but also his political rivals across the aisle (such as Ted Kennedy). We all have different political views in my family, but we also all agree that he was a damn good man, something that's true of very few politicians. He really deserved to be President.
You mean loser who didn't end up winning eventually I expect...Henry Clay is an accomplished political figure, but he doesn't rank above John Adams or Thomas Jefferson I would think. As for Adams, I believe that at the time he ran for President he was, and still stands as, the most accomplished person ever to be elected President for the 1st time. He had been the driving force at the Continental Congress in declaring Independence, had gone to Paris and then to Amsterdam to negotiate alliances and was a signatory and negotiator of the Treaty of Paris that ended the Revolutionary War, served as the 1st US Ambassador to Great Britain, and was then of course the first Vice President. With all of that to his credit, I would put Adams still to this day as the most qualified man ever elected President. Both he, Jefferson, and some others on the list who were Presidents before or after they lost, are also more accomplished than Clay.
yes, I meant that Clay was a loser in that he repeatedly ran and lost and never actually won. He was much better at losing presidential races than almost anyone unless you want to count people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or Lyndon LaRouche.. but they were never serious contenders.
Of course Clay's accomplishments didn't even come close to matching Adams' or Jefferson's or Roosevelt's, who all later won.
William Jennings Bryan was another one who was always running and losing. I remember learning about him, as well. He's tied with Clay here for most appearances. Though Clay's career of losing elections was longer than Bryan's. He was at it for 20+ years.
Based on what I learned in history class, the biggest injustice to the office of the president was the fact that neither Henry Clay nor William Jennings Bryan held office. Both would have been more competent than the presidents that we had during that time. Perhaps we wouldn't have had a depression in the mid 1800s had Clay been there. Maybe we would have actually had a competent president at the turn of the century instead of a revolving door of one-term buffoons if Bryan took office. Who knows.
When the Republicans nominated him in 1944 Eleanor Roosevelt famously said that he looked like the little man on the top of the wedding cake. And the Chicago Tribune prematurely declared him the winner in 1948, which might cement his role in history as the man who finished second. The Trib still hasn't gotten over it: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/chi-chicagodays-deweydefeats-story-story.html. It probably never will.
Several copies of Newsweek's "Madam President" issue were sold before sales were stopped and the remaining ones recalled. The President Trump issue will be shipped next week. Oops. http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/national-recall-after-newsweek-misfires-with-clinton-cover/
Nope. If you know your New York History, the great DeWitt Clinton was the man behind the Erie Canal and the grid plan of New York City's streetscape. A great mayor, a great governor, and would have been a great president.
Interesting to see the 2012 comments at the last election. Just finished US election and Donald Trump is president. Will be interesting to say the least.
However, I don't think he won the necessary popular vote % to appear on here. I agree with you, and would include him, considering that the electoral vote is how the President is decided. Thurmond was infinitely closer to the Presidency in the end than someone like Perot who won literally millions of votes, but no electors to show for it.
Interestingly enough, Strom Thurmond earned about 2% of the vote in 1948, yet still won the electoral vote in 4 Southern States. Rules of the quiz didn't admit him, and rightfully so, but I tried him anyway, to no avail.
Presidential "one-term wonders" sure helped on this one. But why, oh why couldn't I come up with Dewey?! I could see the newspaper pic of Truman, with the bold headline over his head, "________ Defeats Truman". But I couldn't fill in the blank! (And no, the pic at the top of the quiz didn't help. More's the pity.)
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Thank you, thank you. I actually avoided this quiz for the last week or so because I like to read the comments, yet inevitably they descend into they typical mudslinging you see everywhere else (full disclosure: I'm guilty of throwing a few barbs of my own in the past). So I just stayed away but happy to see this moderation update.
I'm sure you've heard this a bunch of times, but Jetpunk could really use a commenting system that allows you to be notified when someone responds to one of your comments. Not the ones that require you to be on Facebook or something else, but would be nice.
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Inaccurate. Burr ran as a Democratic-Republican against fellow party member Thomas Jefferson and Federalist incumbent John Adams. Because Burr lost to Jefferson in the congressional vote, he became vice president due to the process for selecting the vice president at the time, which ruled that the second place candidate would fill the office.
Came to the comments expecting debate and anti-Trump and anti-Biden sentiment, didn't expect absolutely no debate whatsoever! If you deleted the comments of some users who are very vocal about their opinions, thank you Quizmaster!
why would you come looking for something that you don't want to see or read? You know you can just skip to the next quiz, right? It's not obligatory to read all the comments.
He was probably the single most influential person in the history of New York, first as mayor and then as governor. He was the man behind the gridplan for the streets and later was the man behind the Erie Canal. A brilliant leader.
These comments have aged... poorly.
I got most back to 1960, and the first few, plus most that ran unsuccessfully for a 2nd term or had an unsuccessful 1st bid before they won. I also got Al Smith just on a complete guess, whoever that is, when I was typing in random common names.
Sorry, I forgot.
Of course Clay's accomplishments didn't even come close to matching Adams' or Jefferson's or Roosevelt's, who all later won.
The first thing I noticed was that he died on March 4, the date of presidential inauguration until FDR's second term.
He was the youngest ever governor of Minnesota, but after 4 years of that job his political success evaporated.
He lived to 94, dying in 2001 and as noted tried for the presidency the last time at 85.
John Scopes monkey trial
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I'm sure you've heard this a bunch of times, but Jetpunk could really use a commenting system that allows you to be notified when someone responds to one of your comments. Not the ones that require you to be on Facebook or something else, but would be nice.
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