Man-Thing should be disqualified. It was direct-to-video and never released in theaters. If you're going to start counting every feature-length project, there were some pretty abysmal Roger Corman-esque projects from the 70s and 80s that no one should watch, ever. But please don't.
Maybe you could just move the start date back to 1998? That would make sense as the first Blade movie was really when the modern era of Marvel movies began. Nothing special about the year 2000.
Great, got the atrocities of Elektra and the Punisher "Films" but missed Ant-Man which was great. Happy that I managed to forget the existence of Fan Four and Wolverine though
I liked Logan a lot but I'm not sure it's superior to the 2nd. It also was a bit silly in the last act. Both good movies, though. Both far superior to the first film which was terrible aside from the opening credits sequence.
Needs an update to include Dr. Strange. Also, there will be another Guardians of the Galaxy, another Spider-Man, and another Thor film this year (though I can certainly see why you'd want to wait until they actually come out to add them). With regard to the Blade movies, could you maybe re-word the description to say that the numbers ONLY reflect movies since 2000?
Yes. In 2008. It was the 2nd film in the MCU only preceded by Iron Man. And there was another Hulk film before that directed by Ang Lee that was not part of the MCU in 2003. They're included on the quiz.
I suggest that it would be better to put the movies by the first one. For example, instead of putting the most recent Spider Man film it would be better to put the first one which came out in 2002, the first Fantastic Four in 2005, and so on, I think.
So is this meant to include *only* live-action movies, and that's why you didn't include Big Hero 6? If so, I think it's totally proper to discard that failed Inhumans IMAX experiment, but what about Kick-Ass?
You could exclude Kick-Ass! under the rationale that even while it is a Marvel property, it was published under the Icon imprint not Marvel.
The same can't be said about Big Hero 6. Not sure how to get around that. Most people don't think of Big Hero 6 as a Marvel superhero team but it undeniably is... it just is much more famous for being an animated Disney film than for the two comic miniseries that the film was based on.
Looked it up and this is right. Dark Phoenix pushed from November to February. And.. wow... New Mutants has been pushed back a year and a half. Originally slated for April 2018 now it's August 2019.
I remember hearing about a new Amityville Horror movie that was supposed to come out back in 2014, but for whatever reason it just kept getting delayed until late 2017 when they finally released it in theaters for a limited time before it went direct-to-dvd about a month later. From what it looks like, it ended up being as good as any other film in the franchise. Hopefully New Mutants doesn’t suffer the same fate because it actually looks interesting.
Just got out of Infinity War a few hours ago. It was at least better than super overrated Black Panther... they took some big risks with this unlike that very generic and predictable boilerplate film. But I'm not really sure how I feel about it.
The main reason that I think I might dislike it is that the unexpected twists are SO big that it seems to me like they are giving away most of the plot to Avengers 4. Because the MCU cannot continue the way Avengers 3 left it.
SPOILER WARNING
The characters that survived are all the ones you would have expected to die. And all the ones that died are new and have lots of cash left in their udders for Disney to milk out of them, plus long contracts already signed going in to the future. There's no way they can just leave things like that. So... I imagine... and would bet large amounts of money that I'm right... that in Avengers 4 we will see Captain Marvel (& Adam Warlock?) come to Earth to assist the surviving members of the Avengers, and that those surviving members will do something to reverse what happened at the end of Avengers 3, very likely including something that will require the Avenger whom Dr. Strange told "it was the only way" to sacrifice himself.
If all of that comes to pass then it's not really as ballsy as it might seem at first glance. And I feel like there's no way they're going to stick to it for artistic reasons there are billions of dollars at stake. So... assuming that everything is going to be undone it feels less ballsy and more like a cheap trick.
Plus I find Ruffalo's Banner to be so whiny and unconvincing and he gets worse in every movie. I wish they had managed to keep Norton. And Wakanda is stupid I hope that the next movie is not set there and I can just forget about it and skip the inevitable Black Panther sequel. And the stuff is space is ridiculous in terms of scale and physics and so on but... eh whatever.. I know it's just a comic book movie. I enjoyed it. I'll probably go see it again on IMAX.
The director of the Guardians of the Galaxy films said that Adam Warlock will not be in Avengers 4, and that he got flack from the studio for teasing Warlock in the post-credits scene of GOTG2 because of it. Supposedly he might play a role in GOTG3. So unless he's pulling a J.J. Abrams and is lying to people in order to try and surprise them, we won't see Warlock in the Infinity War sequel.
As for the rest, I agree that killing off several characters for whom sequels have already been announced undermines the tension of the film's ending. Between that and the fact that the contracts for actors like Downey, Evans, and maybe Hemsworth are said to be up after the next film, the popular theory is that several of the original Avengers may sacrifice themselves to defeat Thanos and undo what happened. For some people that may cheapen the ending of Infinity War, but I say it's all about the journey, not the destination. As long as they can make the story of how it happens good, it's fine with me.
Having had much more time to ruminate I've decided I liked it a lot. Just wasn't sure how to feel about the ending for a while. My rankings of all MCU films to date:
1. The Avengers 2. Infinity War 3. Ragnarok 4. Civil War 5. Guardians of the Galaxy 6. Iron Man 7. Ant-Man 8. The Winter Soldier 9. Doctor Strange 10. Spider-Man Homecoming 11. GotG vol 2 12. The Incredible Hulk 13. Captain America 14. Thor 15. Iron Man 2 16. Ant-Man & the Wasp 17. Age of Ultron 18. Black Panther 19. Iron Man 3 20. The Dark World 21. Captain Marvel
Having had even more time to think about it, I think now that both Infinity War and Endgame were better movies than the original Avengers. Endgame was masterful. Should have been nominated for Best Picture, not that garbage Black Panther movie. The rest of my rankings are the same except I'd probably move Iron Man above Guardians, and Winter Soldier above Ant-Man, having rewatched both recently.
I'll echo what everyone else is saying, that Big Hero 6 should be included. And while we're at it, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) should count towards Spidey's total. Either those should count, or the quiz should specify live-action movies.
Excuse my ignorance, but why are neither Superman nor Batman included? They even had a film about them vs each other in 2016. And surely they are Marvel, are they not?
Surely they are not. Superman and Batman are both from DC Comics, Marvel's biggest competitor. There are and have been many different comic book-producing studios in the United States but Marvel and DC are the two biggest.
Ouch, I ll admit I don't know for every character if they are DC or marvel, just the bigger names. But I do know there are strong feelings about it and that you shouldnt get them the wrong way around ! Say this at a comic-con and you ll be swarmed by hundreds of angry fans with foam swords..
(I am curious if people would get more mad over this or over people confusing star wars with star trek...)
Of course there’s some MCU movies that are pretty bland as well. But I don’t think any of them are as bad as Howard the Duck, Elektra, or any of the Fantastic Fours.
The first Donner Superman film and the first two Burton Batman films were pretty good. Weird Science, V for Vendetta, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight, Sin City, The Road to Perdition, Mystery Men, Men in Black, The Mask, A History of Violence, Hellboy, Ghost World, The Crow, Constantine, 300, and American Splendour were all pre-MCU, as well. Some of those were okay and others were downright brilliant. It wasn't all Elektra and Catwoman.
and... I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually think Howard the Duck is underrated. If you don't take it seriously (and why would you?) it's actually pretty funny.
As for the MCU films I think it's really remarkable that they've made 21 movies now and stayed so consistent. None of them are downright terrible. Though, in my subjective opinion, Captain Marvel, Iron Man 3, and Thor the Dark World were all pretty bad. Avengers Age of Ultron could have been a lot better. and Black Panther is hands down the most overrated comic book movie in history - objectively very "meh"
I agree with you that most of those films are somewhat entertaining but I was referring to movies that most people would associate with Marvel (as in the Marvel logo is clearly shown somewhere on screen or in posters). Though I still stand by my opinion that nothing in the MCU is as bad as what came before it.
In that case "everything else that people 'associate with Marvel' that came before the MCU not including Spider-Man, X-Men, Blade, and Daredevil"... is not a very long list of movies. :P That's basically Howard the Duck and The Fantastic Four and then you're at the end of the list.
and there are also Marvel movies that came out after the start of the MCU that are pretty dang bad. Not just Thor the Dark World and Captain Marvel (which were worse than all those good movies I listed above) but also... Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance, Punisher War Zone, Amazing Spider-Man 2, and the latest Fantastic Four reboot, which were arguably worse than Daredevil or Blade.
Blade was the first time they made a successful comic book movie that was not about Batman or Superman. Most other attempts back then were pretty laughably bad including the 1990s versions of Punisher and Captain America. Blade was a little corny and pretty low-budget but it showed that a comic book film without a super-well-known marquis character, taken seriously, adapted faithfully, could be an entertaining film and box office success.
but then X-Men (2000) and Spider-Man (2002) were both way better and way more successful than Blade. After those films made so much money that's when we started heading toward the current state of Hollywood where most of the money movies make every year comes from comic book movies. And this is because those movies were so well done compared to anything that came before or around the same time.
The sequels X2 and Spider-Man 2 are, IMO, two of the best comic book movies ever made. But... there were also some stinkers from that era.
it is often said and may be true, though, that if not for Blade then X-Men and Spider-Man would never have been made as both had been in production limbo for years before the success of New Line's humble little vampire flick pushed Fox and Sony to finally finish their own Marvel-licensed movies.
Men in Black is based on a Malibu/Marvel comic book. There were four movies in the franchise, three of which came out after 1998 (the cutoff for this quiz). Can you please add this?
I'm still curious about the exclusion of Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse and Big Hero 6, both of which are firmly Marvel properties without even the gray area of being under a different imprint or starting under a different publisher, and were both most definitely feature films. If the quiz is about live-action movies only, it should specify that. The New Mutants should also be included, at least as part of the X-Men franchise if not on its own.
Again, odd that this is coming to the front page now months before some of these films are even released, just like the other MCU quiz that did that...
I'd suggest the caveat: "Includes only live-action films with a wide theatrical release." That would disqualify both Big Hero 6 and the David Hasselhoff Nick Fury movie. Would still need to add New Mutants, though.
Assuming it is referring to the Eternals, they are not technically an alien race, as they are an evolutionary offshoot, albeit genetically engineered, of humans. They are no more alien than X-Men.
You should update for the second venom movie and also possibly run the quiz through till the end of 2022 as we also have a clear picture of the movies that are coming out in 2022
A couple of people have mentioned this, but the 2nd Venom movie comes out next month and so a change in latest year and from 1 to 2 movies would be appreciated.
Don't forget Venom: Let There Be Carnage, The Marvels (part of the Captain Marvel series sort of), Ant Man and the Wasp:Quantumania, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 3, and Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness. Most of these aren't released yet, but Venom 2 is.
I have now read the caveat and can safely say that my previous comment is somewhat useless, but Spider-Man: No Way Home or Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse isn't counted. My assumption for the Spider-Man movies that are counted are Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man 3, The Amazing Spider-Man, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man Homecoming and Spider-Man Far From Home along with one of the above. Please add the other!
I would assume that QM wasn't personally aware that the New Mutants were their own team, and so chose to rope them in with the X-Men, except that if that were true then the number of X-Men films should be 8, not 7.
Venom: Let There Be Carnage still hasn't been updated despite the description stating it includes all movies pre 2022. This list could use an update anyway as it needs a new addition through the legend that is Morbius.
The same can't be said about Big Hero 6. Not sure how to get around that. Most people don't think of Big Hero 6 as a Marvel superhero team but it undeniably is... it just is much more famous for being an animated Disney film than for the two comic miniseries that the film was based on.
My brain has totally erased every trace of those abominations.
SPOILER WARNING
The characters that survived are all the ones you would have expected to die. And all the ones that died are new and have lots of cash left in their udders for Disney to milk out of them, plus long contracts already signed going in to the future. There's no way they can just leave things like that. So... I imagine... and would bet large amounts of money that I'm right... that in Avengers 4 we will see Captain Marvel (& Adam Warlock?) come to Earth to assist the surviving members of the Avengers, and that those surviving members will do something to reverse what happened at the end of Avengers 3, very likely including something that will require the Avenger whom Dr. Strange told "it was the only way" to sacrifice himself.
Plus I find Ruffalo's Banner to be so whiny and unconvincing and he gets worse in every movie. I wish they had managed to keep Norton. And Wakanda is stupid I hope that the next movie is not set there and I can just forget about it and skip the inevitable Black Panther sequel. And the stuff is space is ridiculous in terms of scale and physics and so on but... eh whatever.. I know it's just a comic book movie. I enjoyed it. I'll probably go see it again on IMAX.
1. The Avengers 2. Infinity War 3. Ragnarok 4. Civil War 5. Guardians of the Galaxy 6. Iron Man 7. Ant-Man 8. The Winter Soldier 9. Doctor Strange 10. Spider-Man Homecoming 11. GotG vol 2 12. The Incredible Hulk 13. Captain America 14. Thor 15. Iron Man 2 16. Ant-Man & the Wasp 17. Age of Ultron 18. Black Panther 19. Iron Man 3 20. The Dark World 21. Captain Marvel
looking forward to Endgame
(I am curious if people would get more mad over this or over people confusing star wars with star trek...)
But yeah, aside from those everything else before the MCU was pretty crap.
and... I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually think Howard the Duck is underrated. If you don't take it seriously (and why would you?) it's actually pretty funny.
but then X-Men (2000) and Spider-Man (2002) were both way better and way more successful than Blade. After those films made so much money that's when we started heading toward the current state of Hollywood where most of the money movies make every year comes from comic book movies. And this is because those movies were so well done compared to anything that came before or around the same time.
The sequels X2 and Spider-Man 2 are, IMO, two of the best comic book movies ever made. But... there were also some stinkers from that era.
The New Mutants (2020)
Venom: Let There Be Carnage (2021)