I'd vote Yes. In NZ, we tend to call watermelons "melons", and what you describe here as melons as "rockmelons" (any chance of including the latter as a type-in?)
I vote no, melons are more closely related to cucumbers (same genus) than watermelons (only same family). To me they are clearly different fruits and many languages have unrelated names for the two.
It's currently at 74% vs 71%, not a significant difference.
well technically Watermelons aren't melons at all there berries so in my opinion I think is should be different. In China (for example) Watermelon and Honeydew/Cantaloupe aren't called the same
In Chinese, watermelon is xigua, honeydew is migua and cantaloupe is xianggua - gua being for the most part translated as melon, although it is not really a botanical term as it is also used in the words for cucumber and pumpkin amongst others.
Yes, I guessed melon so didn't think to try watermelon as a separate answer because in the UK watermelons are referred to simply as melons - I agree melon should cover watermelon...
In my experience as a native BrE speaker, I don't think this is true. I also did a quick search of the websites of two leading UK supermarkets and they both seem to make a clear distinction between "melon" and "watermelon".
Yes, OK, maybe my comment was over-generalising and I don't speak for everyone in the UK but my experience in the northwest of England is that watermelons are referred to as melons (I will clarify again that not every single person in the northwest of England will do this). I am not saying people don't realise that melons and watermelons are different but it is just what they call them, presumably out of laziness (like all shortened forms of any word or phrase). For example, if my girlfriend was eating watermelon, I will know in my head that it is watermelon but I would say "can I have some melon please?" She wouldn't reply by saying I am not eating melon, I am eating watermelon, she would understand what I am referring to but refuse my request...
we are not nitpickers. The problem is that people like you want to use the word 'fruit' in multible senses. We'd only like to know, which meaning you are using.
To start with I don't understand what you are accusing the Quizmaster of saying, but for some reason, and it's probably just me, but anytime I hear the phrases: "people like you", "you people", or "those kind of people" I am automatically offended and rarely listen to anything else that the speaker has to say. Are you well enough acquainted with the Quizmaster to judge his/her intentions? I'm always amazed when a completely innocent comment or word is twisted to make it something more than it is. It is obvious from the correct answers that there is no implied slur, judgement, or condemnation intended. I seriously doubt that it would have crossed the mind of anyone here to put the word "fruit" into any other context until you unnecessarily raised the red flag of indignation. Also, I'm on this site too and I would appreciate it if you did not include me in your collective "we". If you have something to say speak for yourself. Thank you.
Oranges and tangerines are very different fruits, even if they have a common ancestor. Not only their taste, but the shape and how you eat it are different. If you don't know that probably tangerines (or oranges, or both) are not very common where you live.
Sugar cane is definitely eaten! But - that's besides the point. Watermelon *is* a fruit, both technically and for culinary purposes. Squash is a fruit but not a culinary fruit. Rhubarb is an example of a true vegetable which is used like a fruit for culinary purposes.
The instructions hint that you shouldn't count tomatoes since you would "be wise" not to include them in a fruit salad. So would you include a lemon in a fruit salad?
If you want to use the botanical definition here, then you can't limit "fruit" to tomatoes. Botanically, a cucumber is a fruit, too. So are squash, avocados, and eggplant. And peppers.
Plus, beans are fruit. So are nuts, and grains (wheat, oats, barley...).
The reason we have the fruit/vegetable debate for tomatoes but not for these other things is, I believe, because of a US Supreme Court case in the 19th century that referred specifically to tomatoes. The distinction entered the public consciousness and has never left, it seems.
The pawpaw that you’ve heard of probably isn’t the same as the pawpaw they’re referring to. Pawpaw is an Eastern US fruit rarely sold commercially that most people have never seen let alone tried. Papayas are not native to the US. The two fruits are not classified in the same genus or even order.
But I guess in some parts of the world, outside of the US where American Pawpaw is endemic, they call papayas papaw or sometimes pawpaws. So it can be quite confusing for Americans, particularly those in the east where pawpaws grow naturally.
Oh my god, ya'll. It's not that hard to follow instructions. You probably know what a 'traditional' fruit is. you're not being smart, you're being pretentious. XOXO
Tangerines should really be grouped together with oranges. If melons are grouped together with canteloupes, then tangerines should be with oranges. We might be talking about different species vs different subspecies, but in terms of actual taste and appearance, there is no more difference between oranges and tangerines (of which there are MANY different varieties of each) than there is between melons and canteloupes.
It's currently at 74% vs 71%, not a significant difference.
we are not nitpickers. The problem is that people like you want to use the word 'fruit' in multible senses. We'd only like to know, which meaning you are using.
Plus, beans are fruit. So are nuts, and grains (wheat, oats, barley...).
The reason we have the fruit/vegetable debate for tomatoes but not for these other things is, I believe, because of a US Supreme Court case in the 19th century that referred specifically to tomatoes. The distinction entered the public consciousness and has never left, it seems.
But I guess in some parts of the world, outside of the US where American Pawpaw is endemic, they call papayas papaw or sometimes pawpaws. So it can be quite confusing for Americans, particularly those in the east where pawpaws grow naturally.
Many thanks
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