The only thing that doesn't belong here is Mt Olympus, which is a very real place. The Garden of Eden is certainly fictitious, and also a myth, and yes they're not precisely the same things but it is both. Olympus is neither.
There's also some scholarly hypotheses that the story of Atlantis was based on a real place - the strongest evidence maybe points to it being Fira/Thera/Santorini, which was home to a Minoan Brozen-Age city on an island near totally obliterated by one of the largest volcanic eruptions in human history around 1600 BC, though there are other contenders - making Atlantis perhaps mythologized by not actually mythical.
I am so glad you spoke up and gave us the ultimate answer, considering you clearly believe yourself to be all-knowing on all subjects and therefore anyone who disagrees with your view is wrong. I have never seen someone comment with such "authority" on so many quizzes and subjects.
the irony in this last comment of course being that I am merely echoing the broad and heavily attested scholarly consensus... without pride or hubris... meanwhile the person responding to me actually DOES believe he has special and unique wisdom and authority to determine what is right and wrong, and therefore feels the need to project his own arrogance on to anyone who repeats the consensus that he, without evidence, feels entitled to disagree with.
I find something like 80-90% of all people making personal attacks online are projecting. More guilty themselves of the things they accuse others of being. Of course... that's just an estimate, a guess, I don't and have never claimed to know everything. Reality is what it is, we can observe it or we can argue with it.
Reflecting on the fact that I'm exchanging words with someone accusing me of being closed off to being wrong... who himself ostensibly believes in the historicity of a magical garden with a talking snake and super-power granting fruit... makes me feel kind of silly.
Sometimes better just not to comment. I realize that I have farther to go before learning this lesson than most people here.
Everyone is "entitled" to disagree with anything, welcome to humanity. Again, all I was stating is that the hubris in your responses makes you sound like a "know-it-all". Doesn't matter if I agree with you or not, many times I do. It just comes across that you believe you have some authority over others with your views. I never stated I believe myself to have a special or unique wisdom or authority to determine what is right and wrong. In fact, I never even stated I disagreed with you. You assume to know what I believe based on a single post, whereas I have a website full of comments by you to back the view my views. I am sure you will respond with a well worded paragraph full of authoritative presumption of me and anyone else who disagrees with you. Clearly I have struck a nerve
if it makes you feel better to imagine that. okay. have fun with that. Obviously the words I type here have little relation to your understanding of them, so no point trying to correct you.
I have to apologise to most of the Americans here, but bebn123's attitude is one of the major things I dislike and fear about America. Not the first and not the last person to vocally feeling attacked the moment not everybody shares their personal belief. Yes. It's religion, it's a belief, not a science, not a truth. That's what religion is about FAITH. NOT PROOF. Don't confuse the two.
America, as far as I understand, has freedom of religion, so WHY should any American non-religious website show a positive bias towards Christianity? Demanding that it should be so, is totally pulling the rug from under freedom of religion.
Except that I didn't say anything about demanding religious-based bias? What I said back then was how it was a bad move to include a location mentioned in the Bible in a quiz about objectively mythical locations. Granted, I based that off the (incorrect) notion that "mythical" specifically meant fictional, but I've since addressed that, so now I take no issue with it. If anything, I was saying "Don't trivialize other religions," not "You should advocate for this religion specifically." Do you mind if I ask why you got the impression that I was insinuating said bias?
When you want others to conform to your belief that a fictional, yes fictional, place is real and consider that disagreeing, or even acknowedging that such a disagreement exists by its mere mention, is trivializing your belief, then yes, you are indeed demanding that they show the same bias. Your book has no more historical merit than Homer's lliad, and proof of that is overly abundant. Half of it was written 2 millennia ago, the other half is from the bronze age. People ignored a lot of things about the world back then, time to get an update.
So you're advocating for the special treatment of Christianity. There are places in this quiz which are part of other religions, but apparently you're fine with those... just not the Christian one.
Wow,I thought it would be a prejudice that Americans are sooooo crazy with God and stuff. I hoped it is bad propaganda that most people in America believe in creationism and not in Darwin. I was wrong, as a lot of comments show and that scares me. Americans always believe that they are the crown of creation and the "best" and "strongest" nation in the world. But so many seem to believe that the whole mankind is based on 2 people - Adam and Eve, and thats so weird. Sorry, if I offend some of you, but for me - as a western-European - this is so crazy (and stupid - sorry again).
Some of the Creationists commenting here are from the UK and Australia, and I think there's another one from New Zealand. But thanks for stopping by and sharing your prejudice with us.
Bigots obviously are not a rare species outside the of the USA. They comment on this website every day. My response was relevant to the comment I was responding to.
Compared to most western nations, the USA has a very high proportion of Creationists. This is demonstrable fact. But I agree that what people write here doesn't supply any actual evidence.
Did my comment really get removed? Was it the "t word?"
I'll say again. I'm American and I know that Evolution is a fact. So do near 200 million other people with the same address. Ken Ham is Australian. Ray Comfort is a kiwi. Harun Yahya is Turkish. Smartcookie, commenting above, is from the UK. There are crazy people in the Netherlands building replicas of Noah's Ark. So... when you come on here and automatically assume that every ignorant statement being made is coming from an American, and then imply that because you are European you are more enlightened and shielded from such stupidity, it kinda makes you seem like a jerk.
Mmmhhh....most of the Darwin-denier are from USA, not from Netherlands, from New Zealand or Australia. There are no universities in one of these countries which teach creationism as a actual fact. And this is a FACT! So it was just logical to assume, that these comments are by Americans.
So you are one of the 58 % which believe in Evolution. Congrats!
Well, i have to say the comments were far more interesting to read than actual quiz. I would like to point that George Bush said, "i believe the jury is still out on that one." Merka!!!
David Cameron: "we should feel proud to say, ‘This is a Christian country.’"
Barack Obama: "Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."
coro: I'm sorry that you lack the mental capacity to understand my perfectly relevant comment.
Aesthus: now... *that's* a strawman argument. Though we could have an argument about the religion of the United States and you would lose... that's not what I was saying and you've missed the point.
Perhaps they were referring to what the countries actually are. There is nothing in the US constitution to set it up as a Christian nation, whereas England (but not the rest of the UK) has the Church of England as its official religion. However, the UK is much less religious than the USA. Most British adults don't even believe in God (according to some surveys).
Land of the norse gods - Vanaheim! As there were two different groups, why should we leave out the other because they were more peaceful and had a smaller part in sagas?
Second time around. Got GOT. I nearly created a new sitcom by misspelling the mythical land of gold as Ed Lorado, whom I think of as an incompetent Sam Spade, possibly played by Andy Richter.
There are 2.2 billion Christians and 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. 4 billion is more than half of 7.3 billion. So the majority would agree that Eden is a real place, since both of these are Abrahamic religions.
The majority is not always wrong. The majority now think the earth is round. They are right. The point is that the majority of people do not believe that Eden is a myth, which was what @noodles seemed to be saying.
The majority of people do not run this website, so their opinion is meaningless. Anyone's opinion about a fact is meaningless - it doesn't change the fact.
There are very few things, outside of religion and opinion, that more than half of earth's population believe that are false. And your original comment was talking about how the majority's opinion should be used, so...yeah, I think the word hypocritical would be appropriate under the circumstances.
"There are very few things, outside of religion and opinion, that more than half of earth's population believe that are false." ...so you admit religion is false?
Really, kal? I mean that no religion is proven, and if you weren't trying to read idiocy into my words, you wouldn't see that. But returning to the point, no religion is believed by a majority of the world, so it's impossible for any one religion to be both true and believed by a majority of earth's population.
Not every christian believes the bible is true word for word. Many believe atleast part of it is more abstract, allegories. I would be surprised it nowayawdays it would be more than half that believe it word for word. (Even if you disregard the fact that many might label themselves christian, because they were brought up that way, actively practising it is something else. Many have not seen the inside of a church for years, or just go out of habit or community feeling)
I love the audacity that the ancient Greeks had in naming Olympus as the dwelling place of the gods. As a real place, they were just daring people to not even try to go up there. "Mommy, where does Zeus live?" "Oh, honey, he lives over there. Do NOT go over there. Sweet dreams."
Yikes... the cringe-worthy things you see about yourself five years later.
Look. I understand (now, anyway) mythological is not the same as fictional, so yeah, I admit I majorly jumped the gun assuming this quiz was implying "Christianity is a hoax." And yes, I also admit that back then I was way more close-minded and defensive about the issue than I am now, and my response to Hdny42 was overall unnecessary and may have come off as kind of ignorant or just kind of dumb.
But holy crap, people. Nowhere in there did I say anything about denying Christianity guaranteeing you a one-way trip to Hell, or if you don't 100% agree with my religious beliefs, you're not really Christian. If your religious beliefs vary? That's fine. If you disagree with me that calling the Garden of Eden completely fictional is objectionable (even though I already said I realize that's not what this quiz is doing)? That's fine. But nothing in my comment is worth getting all up in arms about. Calm. Down.
It took several years for me to admit I was wrong about my faith-based ideas as well and looking back at some of the things I wrote then it sometimes seems as though they were written by a different person. Be glad that you are capable of feeling that cringe. It's not something to be embarrassed about it means you are capable of self-reflection.
You hit the nail on the head there. Even in regards to topics outside of religion, I used to be pretty close-minded as a kid, and had a really tough time understanding how other people could possibly believe opinion X or view Y. Thankfully, time and experience eventually helped me break out of that mindset, so I'm so glad I actually have a reasonable amount of common sense and critical thinking ability now to keep me levelheaded.
All of us react when we feel our core beliefs are being challenged. As we acquire wisdom, hopefully we begin to realize we cannot change what others do or think, we can only change how we respond to them. I applaud your willingness to share your wiser self with us today.
All this religious commentary aside, Mount Olympus is an actual, factual place, so I question its inclusion here. There are those who may argue the residents were mythological, but as the quiz is about the land or location, it should be removed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Olympus
Can you accept "Panam" for Panem? I was going crazy cause I knew the name of where Hunger Games took place, but it never occurred to me that the spelling is wrong.
Ehm the book roleybob is referring to is actually the Source of the word... Moore is the one that made that word up.. So if it wasnt for him that word wouldnt even exist.
Anyone else immediately got the zelda soundtrack in their head ? The harder I tried to think of the name, the more intense the song was going in my head haha Didnt manage to get it :/
others I missed are mushroom, westeros and panem. Never seen anything of hunger games or game of thrones. Panem means zero to me (well, it makes me think of bread...) but I have heard of westeros.
'mythology', as in, referencing a series of beliefs held by a group of people. If the people that believe in the bible are arguing that 'eden' shouldn't be there because it isnt a 'mythological' place, then we have an issue. I know there are video games and movie things here. Those, perhaps, shouldn't be considered 'mythological' but rather 'fantasy'. So in that way, it's a poorly worded title. However 'Valhalla', 'Olympus' and 'Eden' all belong in the same category... unless you don't think Eden is part of the christian mythology? If anything, Olympus would be the one that shouldn't be there because it exists on a map.
Dammit - I was surprised at getting all of them and then questions on the Hunger Games and Game of Thrones. I should obviously read more bookes with "game" in the title :-S
Mythical in the same way Olympus is. A story passed down thousands of years can't exactly be held to be fact. Ignoring the OTHER conversation about this
I'm offended that Shangri-La is considered a mythical place. It is very much real, I visited myself, but I had to leave. I've been trying to find my way back for 54 years now
This time missed Shire, El Dorado, and Avalon. Last time blanked on Mordor, Shangri-La, and didn't think of utopia. Missed Elysian and Lilliput both times
I find something like 80-90% of all people making personal attacks online are projecting. More guilty themselves of the things they accuse others of being. Of course... that's just an estimate, a guess, I don't and have never claimed to know everything. Reality is what it is, we can observe it or we can argue with it.
Sometimes better just not to comment. I realize that I have farther to go before learning this lesson than most people here.
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America, as far as I understand, has freedom of religion, so WHY should any American non-religious website show a positive bias towards Christianity? Demanding that it should be so, is totally pulling the rug from under freedom of religion.
Grow up.
And I do not wanted to offend somebody. Just sayin....
http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx
I'll say again. I'm American and I know that Evolution is a fact. So do near 200 million other people with the same address. Ken Ham is Australian. Ray Comfort is a kiwi. Harun Yahya is Turkish. Smartcookie, commenting above, is from the UK. There are crazy people in the Netherlands building replicas of Noah's Ark. So... when you come on here and automatically assume that every ignorant statement being made is coming from an American, and then imply that because you are European you are more enlightened and shielded from such stupidity, it kinda makes you seem like a jerk.
...just sayin'
So you are one of the 58 % which believe in Evolution. Congrats!
David Cameron: "we should feel proud to say, ‘This is a Christian country.’"
Barack Obama: "Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."
God save the queen!!!
Aesthus: now... *that's* a strawman argument. Though we could have an argument about the religion of the United States and you would lose... that's not what I was saying and you've missed the point.
- Mo
The majority used to believe that the Solar system is geocentric. They were wrong.
Look. I understand (now, anyway) mythological is not the same as fictional, so yeah, I admit I majorly jumped the gun assuming this quiz was implying "Christianity is a hoax." And yes, I also admit that back then I was way more close-minded and defensive about the issue than I am now, and my response to Hdny42 was overall unnecessary and may have come off as kind of ignorant or just kind of dumb.
But holy crap, people. Nowhere in there did I say anything about denying Christianity guaranteeing you a one-way trip to Hell, or if you don't 100% agree with my religious beliefs, you're not really Christian. If your religious beliefs vary? That's fine. If you disagree with me that calling the Garden of Eden completely fictional is objectionable (even though I already said I realize that's not what this quiz is doing)? That's fine. But nothing in my comment is worth getting all up in arms about. Calm. Down.
others I missed are mushroom, westeros and panem. Never seen anything of hunger games or game of thrones. Panem means zero to me (well, it makes me think of bread...) but I have heard of westeros.