An understandable mistake, Inferno had circles 2-5 of the 9 as Lust, Gluttony, Greed, and Anger. (Limbo, Heresy, Violence, Fraud, and Treachery being the others.)
The Inferno punishes bad actions. The Purgatorio expunges the root-causes (or states of mind) that lead to bad deeds, the deadly sins themselves. That is why the two are not the same, and Dante is actually being quite orthodox in this.
I remember this by the SpongeBob characters. This will ruin your childhood but here's how: Lust is SpongeBob, Gluttony is Gary, Greed is Mr. Krabs, Sloth is Patrick, Wrath is Squidward, Envy is Plankton, and Pride is Sandy.
I always thought gluttony was a form of greed. I guess since it is based mainly on too much eating and drinking while greed extends to money, power, or whatever, gluttony gets its own section.
you can have no interest in material items, but still want to eat everything in sight in too big portions. Gluttony is more indulgance than greed.
I guess greed can turn a person ugly on the inside and gluttony on the outside. (I feel like a sidenote is needed... a little extra weight doesnt necessarily make a person ugly, in many cases it makes them look better. But the outside is just a package it is not what counts. But in the case of this sin excessiveness is key and it is often depicted as morbidly obese characters)
There's a problem with reading words (or their translations) written 700 years ago, and applying today's connotations to them. If you want to understand why it's a mortal sin, I recommend reading either CS Lewis' or Ezra Taft Benson's discourses on the subject.
"Pride" in this sense means something along the lines of the modern usages of "egotism" or "vanity." It's not meant to suggest you should have low self-esteem.
Pride has become a milder and positive form of such words in our present day connotation. Something akin to excessive ego and, as another user said, "vanity" is how it was used and meant back then.
No, the order is part of the concept--Dante wrote them as interrelated and progressive steps to overcoming mortality and worldliness in order to be saved.
Exactly! It is an organized hierarchy and it makes sense. Pride is the root which is why it is at the bottom. The bottom 3 are sins of the intellect and are also harder to identify. The top 3 are sins of appetite and are more surface manifestations of the sins of the intellect, which is why they are on top because they are more easily recognizable. Sloth is 'the middle sin", and there is controversy on its classification and placement.
I think he'd probably fail it for the exact same reasons. Too slothful to bother thinking about the answers and too proud to admit that he commits any sin at all. Also, probably envious of the fact that there are people who can complete it faster than him.
I'm not a Christian so I might not understand that's why I asked but if I see one of my friend knows Chinese which helps him a lot and I wish to learn it too then where am I wrong ?
I'm not a Christian but I would say that all of these can be good in moderation, but that in excess they can lead people into doing things that negatively impact themselves or other people. In this case being constantly dissatisfied with what you have and wanting other people to have less so that they don't have more than you. That said, all of these are nearly universal human traits and labelling them as sins is ridiculous and harmful.
Envy is not hoping/wishing you had something someone else has (in which case I could understand you not seeing what is wrong about it). It is hating others intensely for it and wishing horrible things upon them. Envy turns someone in the worst version of themselves, hate consumes you and it doesnt always stay with wishing bad things upon the other. In the smallest cases the empathy is gone, when someone they envy (like a sibling) falls instead feeling sorry for them they are happy about it (or actually the cause) but in larger cases it can lead up to murder.
Envy instills a rage and hate and can turn people into monsters (of the human kind, nothing supernatural). Imo the worst of the group, and one that really does not have a neutral or positive side to it. It is the only one that feels truly evil instead of just unfavored behaviour.
You are spot-on in your explanation of envy, as I understand it. I can understand why you think it is the worst of the 7. In fact, there is a hierarchy, and the general consensus is that only Pride is worse than Envy, which is #2. However, I would ask you to consider this - If someone had a GOOD sense of Pride, a GOOD self-esteem, based on the right reasons rather than a BAD case of Pride with either low self-esteem or perhaps being really superficial, then they wouldn't have many problems with Envy, would they? I'm not trying to argue or disagree. I'm just trying to explain that Pride is the *root* of all of them and is present in all of them. Not all of them are present in all of the others, but Pride is.
Confusing to go with weak versions of the words (attempts to be modern perhaps?) - greed rather than avarice (when greed can also mean gluttony, and pride rather than vanity.
I wonder if we should really be surprised that the deadly sins are such a widely used trope in literature and entertainment. It's an easy way to encapsulate the flaws of a character, serving as a baseline for the development of their story and growth. And, well, they're not exactly comprehensive, or entirely correct, but there's enough to the concept that it's still somewhat relevant.
Seems like Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Pride, Envy, and I guess Wrath, are all still major problems in societies. Human nature doesn't change much over a few thousand years, or wherever they originated from.
pride = carrying heavy stones that keep their necks and heads bowed.
envy = having their eyes sewn shut, like hunting falcons
wrath = being choked and blinded by black smoke
sloth = running ceaselessly, while shouting examples of zeal
greed = repenting while lying prostrate
gluttony = suffering unbearable hunger and thirst
lust =. suffering in fire
When I say "impress" I don't mean "impress with your wit or knowledge," but "impress with your nerdiness." Trust me, I know whereof I speak.
House of Pain ft. Guru - Fed Up
I guess greed can turn a person ugly on the inside and gluttony on the outside. (I feel like a sidenote is needed... a little extra weight doesnt necessarily make a person ugly, in many cases it makes them look better. But the outside is just a package it is not what counts. But in the case of this sin excessiveness is key and it is often depicted as morbidly obese characters)
Pride-Professor
Lust- Ginger
Envy- Mary Anne
Greed- Mr Howell
Sloth- Mrs Howell
Anger- Skipper
Gluttony- Gilligan
I'm not a Christian so I might not understand that's why I asked but if I see one of my friend knows Chinese which helps him a lot and I wish to learn it too then where am I wrong ?
Envy instills a rage and hate and can turn people into monsters (of the human kind, nothing supernatural). Imo the worst of the group, and one that really does not have a neutral or positive side to it. It is the only one that feels truly evil instead of just unfavored behaviour.
Persona 5. Thanks :D
Patrick for Sloth
Sandy for Pride
Mr. Krabs for Greed
Plankton for Envy
Squidward for Wrath
Gary for Gluttony
and Spongebob for Lust
Coincidence? I think not.
Asmodeus - Lust
Beelzebub - Gluttony
Satan - Wrath
Lucifer - Pride
Mammon - Greed
Leviathan - Envy
Belphiegor - Sloth