I'm an American grandmother and I still remember when I first read that Filch was punting students across the swamp the Weasley twins had made in the hall. We don't refer to boats as punts in the US, instead it is an American football term used when kicking the ball. I was picturing Filch drop-kicking students across the swamp. I also remember when I first read that Harry was wearing trainers, picturing him in my mind wearing thick training pants and momentarily wondering why he wasn't potty-trained by age eleven. I had to look it up to learn that trainers meant tennis shoes. I agree the title of the first book should have remained The Philosopher's Stone even in America, but I have no problem adapting the content to fit the language of other countries when our meanings are so different.
Are your studded boots the same things we call cleats? As to why they chose the word sorcerer to replace philosopher, Scholastic just didn't like the word and thought it wouldn't attract young American readers. They asked Rowling to come up with a different title. She is the one who suggested sorcerer, but she later regretted her decision. Since Scholastic owned only the American rights, the name was changed only in America, and she never agreed to changes for any of the later books, but she was an unknown author at the time and gave in to pressure from the publisher.
You know, we Americans don't think about it since we're so used to it, but "tennis shoes" is an odd term to apply to all generic sneakers/athletic shoes. So although "trainers" is strange to us, when we try to explain that we call them tennis shoes, it's really not any less strange. I, for one, rarely play tennis in my tennis shoes.
Americans call them tennis shoes? That sounds so strange and I’m just north of the border. We call them running shoes, at least in my area. Even sneakers would sound odd up here
It's very regional, but "sneakers" would definitely be the most common generic term. Tennis shoes, running shoes, and gym shoes are all used as well, depending on where you live.
Well, the book got translated to Dutch too... Just saying. :') Kids grow up with the language from their parents and surroundings, their books will have to be translated to that language, even if the translation is close to the original. (Although I don't get why it shouldn't be Philosopher's Stone in the US too.)
The only reason I'm taking the quiz is so that I can remove it from my list so I don't have to look at it anymore. I got 4 right somehow. Never seen any of the movies
As far as children’s book adaptations go, the Harry Potter film series is definitely better than most young adult series like the Hunger Games and especially Twilight. But I say Lord of the Rings is superior.
I've read all of these...about 20 times! Only thing is, I never got why they changed the title to SORCERER'S stone from PHILOSOPHER'S stone b/c a sorcerer and a philosopher are completely different things...
I always heard that it was that her American editors and publishers, didn't trust American kids to know what a philosopher was. Sorcerer read better and JK was too new to and probably a bit intimidated to put her foot down at that point.
The fact that very few kids anywhere knew what a philosopher was at eleven ... which would be the audience she was aiming for I'd imagine ... mustn't have registered. I'm pretty sure it was only changed in the states after all.
For real, go troll the Twilight quizzes. The Harry Potter series is legitimately good writing, even though the first books were intended for children. The series was written over a wide timespan and Rowling had to adjust the storytelling for her loyal audience, who were no longer children themselves. Not an easy feat at all.
not very difficult to write something age appropriate. And I wouldn't say she pulled it off, either. They were all boring. But I will grant you Twilight is way, way worse.
I agree entirely. If they encourage kids to read, that's got to be a good thing. Whether you like the stories or not (and I think they're great) she has certainly pulled off something that kids (and adults) want. If earning $1 Billion from book sales and licensing rights isn't achieving something then what is? As for the comment "it's "not very difficult to write something age appropriate" then where can we buy your books?
I personally like Harry Potter. But to be fair it is almost certainly overrated - not because it is bad but because it is probably the most popular children's series of books ever written (or at least in the top few). Of all the others ever written, is it really the best? Probably not. But compared to most stuff written for children, it is decidedly better than average in my opinion.
I have read (some of) Harry Potter, and I also suffered through all but one of the movies for one reason or another.
@ ilikequizzes: do you have to be a fan of something to take a quiz about it? I don't imagine that the people who took my Countries with the most AIDS quiz are all fans of AIDS...
Probably because the countries with the most AIDS are not spending much time browsing the Internet. They're quite impoverished. I'm sure it has nothing to do with your well-thought-out quiz making.
I have no problem if you've read the books and don't like them, but I'm curious, which children's books do you recommend instead? I agree, the movies could have been much better. I thought the last one was best, and contrary to most opinions, I thought Chris Columbus's first two were wonderful since they followed the books almost exactly and were children's movies rather than an attempt to please adult fans. The later ones that seemed to just connect the dots between action sequences and leave out pertinent background info were really annoying, but I still enjoyed them. However, I'll never forgive the omission in #4 of the Weasleys traveling to the Dursley home by Floo Network. I was eagerly awaiting that scene and couldn't believe they didn't include it in the movie. Same thing with Fudge visiting the Prime Minister. My SIL, who never read the books, was confused in the third movie because it wasn't made clear that Lupin, Sirius, James, and Pettigrew created the Marauder's Map.
Another disappointing movie scene omission for me was Arthur's stay in St. Mungo's Hospital after the snake attack and they saw Gilderoy Lockhart and also saw Neville visiting his parents. I would also have enjoyed seeing Hagrid and Olympe visit the giants in Order of the Phoenix, and Harry and friends attending Nearly Headless Nick's Death Day party instead of the Halloween feast. I know they couldn't include everything, but it seems as though if a scene wasn't an action scene or didn't include Harry as the main character it wasn't deemed worthy of inclusion, and that left out so many of the things I enjoyed in the books. I missed seeing Peeves, too, even though he is annoying.
They changed the name to Sorcerer's Stone in the American version because most Americans aren't aware of the historical connotations of a philosopher's stone, which was an item that most of the historical alchemists were trying to obtain. Also philosopher is a harder word than sorcerer and since most American children don't even know the word philosopher, they decided sorcerer would be a better fit.
Not being aware of the philosopher's stone growing up meant that "philosopher," for me, had absolutely no magical connotations. Might as well have called it "Kierkegaard's Rock."
Pfft maybe it's too easy for ya'll Potterholics. I only saw the first two movies as a child and never read the books. Just not my cup of tea. But I tried and still got 5/7 and there are more people like me out there who may need the given time. ;) So be happy you're fast and wizardly .
Mattpert, our accents aren't that good! Your thinking of the upper class accent from London. Search 'Geordie' 'scouse' 'brummie' 'yam yam/ black country' English accents. You'll soon be put off!! Lol black country accent is the closest accent to the language of the Saxons though, makes you sound dumb though...take it from me!
I steadfastly refused to watch or read any Harry Potter for the sake of being contrary. Then I had kids. It's an enormous part of childhood these days.
Bah I knew there was something with phoenix... couldnt get to it. While earlier this week I also did a potter quiz and DID get the phoenix one ( that quiz helped me remember halfblood prince though, cause I didnt remember that one)
This is a bit ridiculous, I spent about 45 seconds trying to work out how to spell Philosophers, then I did not have enough time to get the other ones in.
The fact that very few kids anywhere knew what a philosopher was at eleven ... which would be the audience she was aiming for I'd imagine ... mustn't have registered. I'm pretty sure it was only changed in the states after all.
Grrrr
Awesome quiz, 7/7 with 1:15 to spare. Thank you quizmaster!
@ ilikequizzes: do you have to be a fan of something to take a quiz about it? I don't imagine that the people who took my Countries with the most AIDS quiz are all fans of AIDS...