Football is a team sport that is also heavily influenced by coaching. Give Manning Bill Belichick or Bill Walsh as HC and he may very well have won 4 or 5 SBs.
In 2008, the Patriots lost Brady...and went 11-5 with a total schmo at QB.
In 2001, the Colts lost Manning...and went 2-14.
In 2001, the Patriots got the chance to beat the Rams in the SB because Adam Vinatieri made a 45-yard FG in the snow to force OT with the Raiders in the Divisional Round.
In 2005, the Colts failed to force OT vs the Steelers in the Divisional Round because Mike Vanderjagt missed a 48-yard FG indoors, in perfect conditions.
No NFL coach has ever cast the regular season/playoff aspersion on Manning. Only fans and talking heads on TV. People who know, know better.
In games with the greatest possible stakes between them (AFC Champ.), Manning 3 Brady 1.
They learn from each other. Brady isn't the same player he would have been without Belichick and the other coaches. Belichick isn't the same coach he would have been without learning from Brady and the other players. People saying "it wasn't Belichick" because Brady won without being on his team aren't respecting the whole picture. There are pieces of the other in each of them.
Career interceptions - Favre (336), Blanda (277), Hadl (268), Testaverde (267), Tarkenton (266). Maybe you were thinking of touchdown or passing yardage records.
yeah I typed in Rice right after Montana.. I was like what? lol Jerry Rice hands down was the best football player ever. Barry Sanders was in there too.
WR's don't touch the ball but 10 times/game. And that's generous. Even RBs routinely handle the ball twice as often, sometimes 3 times as much. QBs not only have to deliver accurate passes for WRs to get receptions, but they have to make pre-snap adjustments, read defenses correctly, ignore the pass rush while going through their progressions, look-off defenders and then deliver an accurate ball, often times into a very small window to a moving target. Even great WRs are hardly as indispensable as great QBs.
I get QB's are way more important then WR's, but not to have Rice win one award is crazy, in fact in five of these MVP years, Rice was a receiver for the winner, Montana twice, Young twice and Gannon.
I think wide receivers and running backs are replaceable, a good O-Line and star QB are much more important to the offence than a star WR or star RB. This said, it is an absolute crime that Jerry Rice never won an MVP. Greatest player of all time.
I wouldn't quite say greatest, I think Tom Brady's better, though he is the greatest wide receiver of all time, and arguably the 2nd greatest NFL player in history
I don't think I ever agitate for this, but at least the way I tried to do this, I needed (quite a bit) more time. I started with the Seahawks, worked my way south, and then east. I had to remember relocated teams too. In retrospect, I probably should have just gone franchise by franchise, using the current divisions as organizers. Even so, there are so many eras I had to try to remember, so I took a long time (too long, obviously) on most teams. None of which forgives forgetting Barry Sanders.
As a 3rd generation diehard Giants fan, I love that LT is only for Lawrence Taylor and not LaDanian Tomlinson. Tomlinson’s definitely a top 10 RB ever, but all Giants fans hated that people called him LT. We abbreviated him as LDT.
Also, it’s crazy that no MVP’s team has won the Super Bowl since Kurt Warner’s Rams in 1999. For a long time from the 80s through the 90s, this happened often. Here are all the times it happened.
1966: Bart Starr*. Packers win Super Bowl I.
1978: Terry Bradshaw*. Steelers win SB XIII.
1982: Mark Moseley. Washington wins SB XVII.
1986: Lawrence Taylor. Giants win SB XXI.
1989: Joe Montana*. 49ers win SB XXIV.
1993: Emmitt Smith*. Cowboys win SB XXVIII.
1994: Steve Young*. 49ers win SB XXIX.
1996: Brett Favre. Packers win SB XXXI.
1998: Terrell Davis. Broncos win SB XXXIII.
1999: Kurt Warner*. Rams win SB XXXIV.
* Player also won Super Bowl MVP.
Starting in 2000, the best any MVP’s team has done is to get to the Super Bowl and lose.
In 2008, the Patriots lost Brady...and went 11-5 with a total schmo at QB.
In 2001, the Colts lost Manning...and went 2-14.
In 2001, the Patriots got the chance to beat the Rams in the SB because Adam Vinatieri made a 45-yard FG in the snow to force OT with the Raiders in the Divisional Round.
In 2005, the Colts failed to force OT vs the Steelers in the Divisional Round because Mike Vanderjagt missed a 48-yard FG indoors, in perfect conditions.
No NFL coach has ever cast the regular season/playoff aspersion on Manning. Only fans and talking heads on TV. People who know, know better.
In games with the greatest possible stakes between them (AFC Champ.), Manning 3 Brady 1.
LT is the real GOAT. Just ask Bill Belichick.
1966: Bart Starr*. Packers win Super Bowl I.
1978: Terry Bradshaw*. Steelers win SB XIII.
1982: Mark Moseley. Washington wins SB XVII.
1986: Lawrence Taylor. Giants win SB XXI.
1989: Joe Montana*. 49ers win SB XXIV.
1993: Emmitt Smith*. Cowboys win SB XXVIII.
1994: Steve Young*. 49ers win SB XXIX.
1996: Brett Favre. Packers win SB XXXI.
1998: Terrell Davis. Broncos win SB XXXIII.
1999: Kurt Warner*. Rams win SB XXXIV.
* Player also won Super Bowl MVP.
Starting in 2000, the best any MVP’s team has done is to get to the Super Bowl and lose.