Safe to say public transportation is not high on America's agenda, although there have been multiple extensions of tram and rail systems in recent years.
Trying to take Amtrak from my area to an airport or to visit my daughter in Texas is a nightmare. The tracks are owned by Union Pacific so any time a freight train is coming Amtrak has to take a siding until the freight train goes through. That makes schedules off. There are poor connections, too. The train stations in cities aren't located anywhere near airports, metro lines, or bus terminals and cab fare often costs more than the train ticket. It costs $125 to take a transit van from my town to the nearest airport. I think more people in rural areas would use public transportation if it was more reliable and convenient, but it doesn't make sense for the government to spend so much money making upgrades for so few people. It's one of the realities of living in rural America, and it is why we drive ourselves.
Taking Amtrak from Portland, Maine to Boston (i.e., connect to anywhere else) is a 100 mile trip. Amtrak requires you get to Portland by 6:30 AM to make the 12:00 connection between North and South Stations in Boston. Half. A. Mile. Away.
Sparsely populated rural areas will laways have that problem, especially when everyone already has cars. The bigger problem is the joke of the LA area with 2 subway lines. Prague has 3, Budapest 4 ...
Speaking from my own experience in Finland, sparsly populated rural areas are often car-dependent in the local context but long-distance trains and buses still run often, reliably and conveniently. Sparse population doesn't automatically mean public transit has to be terrible
I would bet those 15 states include most of the Midwest states and/or Alaska where most of the population live in rural areas and public transportation is not a need. Also, I got all of the answers mainly because the states are smaller and the large cities are more compact. I was surprised California made the list since I've never been able to get the public transportation to work well for me. By the time I use the system I would have been at work for an hour already. California cities are too spread out for convenient or efficient public transportation use.
In California, it depends on where you are. In the San Francisco Bay Area (about 1/5 of California pop.), public transportation (although increasingly dilapidated) is second only to New York. Within metro Sacramento and a few parts of Southern Cal, it is also pretty good. Elsewhere, you might as well be in Arizona or Texas.
I was skeptical @nonono, but you are correct! Among major metro areas, New York is #1 and San Francisco is #2. The next five are DC, Boston, Chicago, Philly, and Seattle.
Maine requires (by deceitful political shenanigans of the Green Party) studies to exhaust all other modes of transportation before building any new state funded road whatsoever. Setting up bike paths along rural, twisting blind roads or putting train tracks down a narrow peninsula will never make sense. So years of time and pocket lining studies means roads rarely get built in a thinly populated but very heavily visited, geographically challenged state.
Try to build a commuter rail system today. Way too many EPA regulations, environmental impact studies, "not in my back yard" people, land acquisitions etc etc etc
It's true. Oddly the same politicians who are in most in favor of public transit (in theory) are also the most in favor of putting up insane roadblocks to actually building it. California's failed high speed train is the latest shameful example of this phenomenon. If we want to build better public transit, there needs to be a cheaper and faster way to build it.
Five years later, tens of billions spent, and still no high speed rail. It turns out you can't build a train with good intentions. There's seemingly just too much corruption for California to ever build a rail system, no matter how much they spend.
Makes sense. Cities tend to vote blue. Rural areas tend to vote red. Bigger cities (and more people) means a bigger need for public transit. Except Texas...
Texas (Dallas area in particular) has a surprisingly solid public transit considering the sheer area of the DFW metropolis. Houston is ok and from what I hear Austin is useless.
Even more than having cities, I think the rule of thumb here is how old the cities are. Cities that were booming in the late 1800s and early 1900s (Chicago, Philly, New York, San Francisco) tend to have very good subway systems. Cities that boomed in post-WW2 America were built for cars. That's why Texan and Floridian cities (as well as Georgia with Atlanta and Arizona with Phoenix) don't make it here.
And there's the unfortunate but unsurprising reality that public transit is a political issue even though it shouldn't be. We're starting in a disadvantaged position since cities were purposely designed to make people dependent on cars and it's a political non-starter.
They're all densely urban. If NY or NJ suddenly started voted red tomorrow, the logic of public transit networks for NYC wouldn't stop existing. The NY subway was built in 1904 when the country was vastly more right wing than it is now.
I had nine, and I just thought I'd try Illinois. BUUUT the clock was running down and I misspelled Illinois. IMAGINE MY ANGER WHEN THE CLOCK STOPPED!!1
New York is number one in this quiz. I bet if you changed the criteria from those who use public transportation most to how reliable that transportation is, NY would come in dead LAST! - NYC especially
has the most unreliable subway system I have ever encountered.
The same goes for their interstate rail system (Amtrak), as well as
local and long distance bus service. I know more than thirty people
who have retired early because they were fed-up with being late to work because of the abominable public transportation system.
This was pretty hard until I realized they were asking for states not cities. I got Washington and New York right away but then was thinking.. no Boston? no Chicago? no San Francisco? wth?
All of the public transport in the US suck. The only actual public transport systems that are not complete garbage are maybe Seattle, Portland, DC or New York City
Yeah, I live in Baltimore, and I can tell you it's almost certainly because of people commuting into DC, using its public transit infrastructure. It sure as hell isn't because of Baltimore's one lone metro line.
Some other anecdotes to add. I looked into taking Amtrak from Denver to Oklahoma City. In order to do this, you have to go from Denver to Los Angeles and then to OKC.
To go from Columbus, OH to DC you have to take a Greyhound bus for several hours to Pittsburgh before getting on Amtrak.
haha. for some reason I misread the directions/title and thought I was supposed to be looking for cities, not states. I typed New York and that was correct and then I spent like a minute typing in all sorts of cities and could NOT figure out how none of them could be correct. Boston, Chicago, etc. I finally gave up - only to see that I was supposed to be typing in states.... sigh,
In terms of the extremely low percentages for a lot of the western states shown in the full table, that makes perfect sense given the low population density. When I lived in the Northeast, I used public transit all the time. Now in Arizona, it would be a lot of fun waiting in the 110 degree summer heat for the bus to come for a transit that will take three times as long as a trip by car. Similarly, in most western states, it would be insane to spend billions of dollars to build public transit systems that few people would use, ala the California train to nowhere. People are simply not going to be forced into behavior that is irrational.
Comparing these state by state percentages with Europe is not particularly informative, except for the states that are as densely populated as European countries are. City to city comparisons would be more meaningful and certainly the transit systems that do make sense deserve proper funding.
Also, I surmise that the significant percentage drops since 2018 are due to COVID; would be interesting to see how they change again if the quiz was updated next year.
Subways + AC, maybe? Anyway... If there's a will, there's a way. The US does not seem to have the will. And, of course, the whole thing would require more than just building the system.
These numbers for New York, at least, are already rebounding. Still not at pre-COVID levels on the subways and buses, but it's definitely getting harder to find a seat if you happen to commute during the rush hours.
This is outrageous! Is public transport really that bad over there? I'm 46 and I don't even have a driver's license. I bike or take public transport. I live in Copenhagen though, where public transport is quite good..
In some places in the US public transport is good or fine. In many places it's non-existent. There's a few reasons for the difference with Copenhagen. One is population density, which should be pretty obvious... Denmark's is 137/sq km, while America's is 36/sq km. That's a stark disparity, and in many US states lower on this list (like Alaska: 1.2/sq mile; or Wyoming: 5.8/sq mile) it's even more extreme. Asking people living in these areas to ride their bikes everywhere would be stupid; trying to build a good train network for all of them would be impractical and inefficient.
Another factor is American car culture. Germans invented the automobile but Henry Ford made them something that everyone could afford, and Americans quickly fell in love with cars... which made sense practically on their less aged and densely populated continent. American cities are more modern and built more with cars in mind. Moreover, the suburbs, which started growing...
... after WW2 and became the place most Americans wanted to live, were even more car-centric, spaced out with large homes with big garages, spread out shopping centers with huge parking lots that were inaccessible to public transport and impractical to walk to... it made sense at the time. Gasoline was super cheap. Nobody was talking about global warming. The new Interstate highway system made getting from place to place faster and more convenient than ever (before high-speed rail existed). The American auto industry was booming and many cars became part of Americana: status symbols as well as expressions of personality and American industry and commerce. At this point in history the US was also by far the richest country in the world; Americans could afford things other people couldn't.
There are other factors, too, like different politics. But mostly it's just the growth and entrenchment of US car culture in the 20th century for very explicable reasons.
For me the most incredible thing about these stats is how huge the percentage change is DOWN from 2018... I think most people would assume that the numbers would be rising slightly from year to year, not dropping precipitously... what would account for that? COVID leading to many people working from home is my best guess. But damn... a 70% drop in the state of Washington in just 4 years?? wth.
I live in Seattle so I can give a little context. Most of Washington's public transit use is in Seattle or in the nearby suburbs. There's a lot of tech companies here, and the majority of workers are STILL not back in the office. Not so much due to pandemic concerns, but because workers prefer to work at home for lifestyle reasons. I'd also say that the situation on the buses and trains has deteriorated significantly due to the extreme levels of homelessness and drug use.
seeing the words “US” and “public transit” in the same sentence makes me cringe knowing that we won’t ever get good transit here. i live in the salt lake valley and our public transit is decent but it’s literally some of the best in the country which is just sad
has the most unreliable subway system I have ever encountered.
The same goes for their interstate rail system (Amtrak), as well as
local and long distance bus service. I know more than thirty people
who have retired early because they were fed-up with being late to work because of the abominable public transportation system.
To go from Columbus, OH to DC you have to take a Greyhound bus for several hours to Pittsburgh before getting on Amtrak.
Comparing these state by state percentages with Europe is not particularly informative, except for the states that are as densely populated as European countries are. City to city comparisons would be more meaningful and certainly the transit systems that do make sense deserve proper funding.
Another factor is American car culture. Germans invented the automobile but Henry Ford made them something that everyone could afford, and Americans quickly fell in love with cars... which made sense practically on their less aged and densely populated continent. American cities are more modern and built more with cars in mind. Moreover, the suburbs, which started growing...
There are other factors, too, like different politics. But mostly it's just the growth and entrenchment of US car culture in the 20th century for very explicable reasons.
It's just different from what you are used to.