Oregon might overtake Wyoming, although considering that 6/10 of these are land-locked and the difference between Alaska, Texas and California is large enough to not be effected significantly, I doubt any other possible changes.
A better comparison would be asking an American to name all countries in Europe, which is something many (but certainly not a majority) of Americans could do. There are seven sovereign countries in Europe smaller than the US state of Rhode Island, and the state of California has a bigger GDP than any European country except Germany. Trying to say that US states are as (ir)relevant as German Bundeslanders is silly, but even given that, off the top of my head... Saxony, Lower Saxony, Bavaria, Bremen, Hamburg, Berlin, Brandenburg, Rhineland, Hesse, Westphalia, Saarland.... some other ones...
It's actually not silly. Nordhrein-Westfalen has more population (close to 18 million) than all but four US states. Bavaria (close to 13 million) more than all but 6. In GDP, Nordrhein-Westfalen would be in the top 6 or 7 US states, and Bavaria easily in the top 10 (I can't find a source that lists both in the same currency). The least populated Bundesland, Bremen, which is actually just a city, has more population (681k) than two US states and four US territories. The least populated Bundesland that isn't just a city, Saarland, has more population (986k) than six US states.
And while we're at it: "Rhineland" it's not a state. There is North Rhine - Westphalia, and Rhineland - Palatinate, both of which cover part of the historic region of Rhineland. That's like calling "Dakota" a state.
It is silly, gandalf. Very. But you often argue in favor of silliness when it somehow favors France or Germany or diminishes the USA. Points taken, though. and of course Germany is among the largest, richest, and most populous countries in Europe. So if you want to compare it to US states you ought to be looking at California or New York, not Rhode Island or Wyoming. The English counties thing is sillier, still. A closer analogy would be asking an American to name the four constituent countries of the United Kingdom. Naming all of the counties would be closer to naming all of the counties in California- something I wouldn't even expect a Californian to be able to do. Welcome back to the site, btw.
^ but it's not. The average JetPunker can name every US state and every European country. Few can name every Canadian province. US states to European countries is a very close match in terms of economics, population, international relevance, and degree of common knowledge, with Americans tending to know more about the states and Europeans tending to know more about the countries on their continent. It's difficult if not impossible to find a closer corollary. The proposed alternatives in the comments section here are all much worse and farther off. But Europeans don't want to acknowledge that their countries are similarly (ir)relevant to US states because they want to think of themselves as more important.
If the argument for relevancy is based solely on population and economy, would that make most provinces of China just as "relevant" as most U.S. states or European countries? But then, it seems there's little expectation on JetPunk for users to have any knowledge of Chinese geography. Not entirely sure the comparison holds up
I think the disagreement of what the best analogy would be is actually rooted in different meanings of "relevance". It appears that kalbamahut bases it off of economy and population (money above all, very US-American perspective. Just saying.) while gandalf (and presumably most Europeans) base it largely off of cultural uniqueness, internal vs external differences, history and ability to interact with the world independently.
Internationally, US states are little more than convenient ways to describe where stuff is or happened within a big country rather than any actors in their own right. I guess a good European equivalent would be British constituent countries or Swiss cantons. They all have autonomy to make their own internal laws, might kinda threaten to secede but not really do anything internationally without the explicit say-so of the national government.
There are 48: Iceland, Ireland, United Kingdom, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Monaco, Andorra, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, Italy, San Marino, Vatican City, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Serbia, Albania, North Macedonia, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbajan, Kazakstan, Malta and Cyprus. The reason the UN says its 44 is probably because of Countries that Cross into Asia was well.
cyprus is debatable, imo it's european but georgia armenia kazakhstan azerbaijan are not european, and 99% of turkey is asian except for the bit around istanbul
I got them all but 1 with 1 minute left... then I was at 1 second left and thought it can't be Oregon but it's worth a try, I typed it then with one second left and got 10/10 on my first try!
Arizona is a large state, my county is larger than the entire state of New Jersey in land area, and btw, itsnot the biggest county by land area in Arizona.. :)
I didn't realize Oregon was that big. I guessed Utah and when it didn't show up, I was trying to think what was bigger than Utah but smaller than Wyoming. I lived in Oregon for 7 years, but I think my familiarity with it led me to think I knew it was smaller than Utah. Wasted time guessing everything in the midwest.
Two minutes seems way too long for this. It seems pretty obvious that nothing east of the Mississippi would make the top 10, and even one minute would be more than enough time to guess at all the states west of the Mississippi.
Georgia is the largest state east of the Mississippi, but all but three states west of the Mississippi (Arkansas, Iowa, Hawaii) are larger than Georgia.
The best comparison is probably naming Canadian Provinces.
Internationally, US states are little more than convenient ways to describe where stuff is or happened within a big country rather than any actors in their own right. I guess a good European equivalent would be British constituent countries or Swiss cantons. They all have autonomy to make their own internal laws, might kinda threaten to secede but not really do anything internationally without the explicit say-so of the national government.