Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique and Saint-Martin also have teams. All of them are members of the Concacaf (the confederation of North & Central American and Carribean Football associations), but not of FIFA.
Actually sillie...The large portion of countries that the arabs of palestine claim to have recognition from are from countries that were forced to offer recognition by the Soviets. These countries (Hungary, Poland for example) no longer recognized Palestine once they reinstated democracy in their countries.
135 nations recognise Palestine, including Sweden just last week. I think it's a bit of a stretch to give credit to the Soviet Union, which dissolved in 1991, for that level of diplomatic recognition in 2014.
I'm writing from "Palestine" as I type this... I crossed no border to get here, went through no customs, didn't get a stamp in my passport, did not have to change currencies, the same police in the same uniforms are walking the streets as they did on the other side on the non-existent border. Doesn't feel like I'm in a different country. Though the above does not apply to some areas nominally controlled by the PNA, which I also visited a couple days ago.
Because "Palestine" is a fake country invented by the communists in the 1960s once they realised that Israel was aligning with the West and the Arabs were aligning with the communists.
There are too many complex criteria to ascertain whether something is an independent nation - can't we just replace them all by whether it feels that way to kalbahamut?
DG, as always, you are being an absolute hypocrite. I try to follow consistent standards when assessing contentious things like this. You use your own biases and prejudices and are never consistent. You are projecting. And you've demonstrated this over, and over, and over again. It's sad, and sadder still that you feel the need to repeatedly point this out through ad hominem, but non-self-aware, attacks against me every chance you get. Energy that would be better spent on self reflection.
Ironically, other countries' recognition (or not) of Palestine has much less to do with complex or objective and consistent criteria than it has to do with politics and their "feelings," which lead to them ignoring any facts on the ground, and this can be easily demonstrated, as well.
I don't think your argument holds that much water, Kal. That's not to say there's no arguments to be made for saying Palestine is independent but not fully sovereign, because I think there are. But you didn't go through customs, didn't get a stamp in your passport and didn't have to change currencies? That's true for every Schengen and Eurozone border you cross, so are you going to argue that France and Italy are the same country? The same police in the same uniforms are walking the streets? You could say that if you walked from Russia into the occupied Georgian regions of Abkhazia or South Ossetia, but does that mean that Georgia should not be counted as an independent sovereign country?
When I saw you comment I thought, I bet Kalbahamut replies to this. And there it is, same day too. He swooped on it like a seagull on a discarded box of chips.
You're right, more countries officially recognize Palestine than they do Taiwan. Heck, Palestine's recently obtained observer status in the UN despite being replaced by Israel.
Taiwan or Republic of China is not recognized to be independent by most nations and has to compete in international competition under the name "Chinese Taipei"
Chinese Taipei should be on the list. Taiwan does have an independent government and its own currency but can not compete as the Republic of China. Athletes from Taiwan can not compete under the flag of their nation. That means FIFA recognizes Chinese Taipei as a province of the People's Republic of China and not the independent Republic of China.
Why don't all these tiny little island countries just try out forand participate with the national teams of the countries they are territories of? Seems kind of pointless having all these other teams. It's not like Guam is ever going to win a World Cup.
For them it may be more important to have a team, they can identify with, due to being there friends, neighbours, etc., than to have a team that may be succesfull, but whose players have nothing to do with their home. In the end, thats also the reason for people to chose a club of the local city over the most succesfull team of the country.
yeah but they can still have local teams. FIFA is about international country-to-country competition, though. yes? The fact that Germany fields a national football team doesn't require that Munich disband their club.
I'm pretty sure in most cases it's not too difficult to be(come) eligible to play for the mother nation if you're good enough. But most of Guamanian football players could play for a local club and dream and fail to once play for the US team – or play qualifiers all around Asia. They beat India and Tukmenistan in the last world cup qualifications.
Not everyone is Brazil to see anything but World Cup victory as a failure.
There is about a 99.9% chance a person from Aruba would never make the Dutch team and about a 99.99% chance that someone from Tahiti would be good enough to make the French team. A lot of the smaller island countries have teams so they have a local team to cheer for made up of names they recognize.
There's a 100% chance that the residents of my household would not make it on the US team. That doesn't mean that it makes sense that we should send a squad to try out for the World Cup. Kind of the opposite, actually.
Fun fact for the day. Montserrat has fewer people on it's entire island than a lot of larger American high schools. I imagine they would have a hard time winning a 6A state championship in Texas much less qualifying for the World Cup.
Never said that participating is not important. Just pointing out that they participate even though the deck is completely stacked against them. It might come as a shock to most non Americans but not every American thinks that winning is the only thing that matters. If you want to be an a** I am more than willing to return the favor.
Why did fewer people get England than Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, although it constitutes 84% of the UK's population and its flag is shown in the thumbnail?
That's probably because England usually makes it to the FIFA World Cup and UEFA Euro Cup, while the rest of the teams in the UK don't qualify on a regular basis. Therefore, they might think England represents UK as a whole.
Damn, I thought I created this quiz a few years ago.. Hadn't noticed this was an older one... https://www.jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/134559/fifa-national-teams-not-in-the-196-countries-quiz
... Oh to have an original idea and a featured quiz!
Well, thank God for that. It finally happened and people can stop protesting and asking for Palestine to be independent. Since they are already independent.
Funny enough, we used to have a lot of similar comments about Scotland. SCOTLAND IS INDEPENDENT. But then Scotland had a vote on whether to become independent and decided not to. Which gave us a brief moratorium on such nonsense.
One day, Palestine actually will be independent. I look forward to that day. But it is not the case currently.
The Danish football team represents the Kingdom of Denmark? Not according to Wikipedia. Your analogy with Ireland makes no sense. In this context Denmark and the Kingdom of Denmark are not analogous, unlike Ireland and the RoI.
England represents England, not the UK. And Denmark represents Denmark, not the Kingdom of Denmark.
Just to clarify even further. The Danish national football team is controlled by the Danish Football Association. The Faroe Islands and Greenland have separate associations. Therefore the Danish national team does not represent the Kingdom of Denmark.
Yes but if it was allowed, then you would type Denmark, correct? That way many people would argue that Denmark is independent country and should not be on this quiz. Also, when you do countries of the world quiz do you type Kingdom of Denmark? According to your statement that would be only correct way.
Yes, Denmark is a valid type in for the Kingdom of Denmark. I agree that people would argue that Denmark is independent but that wouldn't make them right so I don't see why that should preclude the quiz from including it.
The Netherlands should also be included in this quiz, you're right.
I think if you oppose the inclusion of Denmark/Netherlands it shouldn't be based on the fact people might be confused.
Just as each constituent country of the UK are included in this quiz due to their independent FA's and FIFA memberships, so should the constituent countries of Netherlands/Denmark.
I think it would at least add an extra element of excitement to an already great quiz.
You could pin a comment at the top explaining the rationale?
JetPunk does not currently recognize Palestine, and it does recognize Kosovo and Taiwan. And saying "add palestine" or "remove kosovo" isn't going to change anything. It's completely pointless.
There are more non-countries that should be on the list. In CONCACAF you have places like Bonaire, French Guyana, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint-Martin and Sint Maarten. You can dispute the independence of Taiwan and Kosovo depending on who you ask.
Your CONCACAF point is valid, but as per the caveat this list takes into account the 196 countries that JetPunk recognizes as independent, which includes Kosovo and Taiwan
Yes, but the countries you mentioned are not FIFA members, French Guyana, Bonaire, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Saint Martin, Sint Maarten are members of CONCACAF only (for the record country can be a part of continental federation, but also doesn't need to be FIFA member)
Ironically, other countries' recognition (or not) of Palestine has much less to do with complex or objective and consistent criteria than it has to do with politics and their "feelings," which lead to them ignoring any facts on the ground, and this can be easily demonstrated, as well.
Not everyone is Brazil to see anything but World Cup victory as a failure.
... Oh to have an original idea and a featured quiz!
Funny enough, we used to have a lot of similar comments about Scotland. SCOTLAND IS INDEPENDENT. But then Scotland had a vote on whether to become independent and decided not to. Which gave us a brief moratorium on such nonsense.
One day, Palestine actually will be independent. I look forward to that day. But it is not the case currently.
England represents England, not the UK. And Denmark represents Denmark, not the Kingdom of Denmark.
The Netherlands should also be included in this quiz, you're right.
Just as each constituent country of the UK are included in this quiz due to their independent FA's and FIFA memberships, so should the constituent countries of Netherlands/Denmark.
I think it would at least add an extra element of excitement to an already great quiz.
You could pin a comment at the top explaining the rationale?