Countries with the Highest Murder Rate

Shhhh....

That's not true at all

I find that quite remarkable. I'm trying to figure out the correlation.

Maybe central American and Caribbean countries with a history of severe oppression - slavery, and oppression of the indigenous inhabitants by European colonizers.

And likewise for southern Africa - Namibia and South Africa have a long history of oppression by the government.

Well, there are people who are murdered and they have no idea who did it. So how does the conviction only for stats make sense to you? A few years ago a guy stabbed a clerk to death at a gas station and police posted the suspects pic on the news. The poor quality of the video didn't help ID the guy, and the case is still open. So, because there's no suspect arrested for the homicide, in your eyes, the murder never happened?

So if a body is found stabbed multiple times and that was the cause of death, it's not definitive that it was murder just cause there's no proof of someone doing it? I guess the person could've just fallen on a knife... repeatedly. Or maybe their intestines itched and they tried scratching them. This is just one example of many where a murder is quite clear, even if the perpetrator is unknown.

The idea that the UK only counts homicides after conviction is a common NRA talking point. It's also nonsense.

Number of murders should be based on a coroner's report / the determined "cause of death". If your country has experienced 9,300 murders in a year (as determined by medical/forensics/police experts), then the country should be reporting 9,300 people murdered.

How your legal system deals with those murders is irrelevant to the stat.

Courts in the US for instance, do not make ANY sort of independent determination about cause of death. That is not their purpose. They deal ONLY with the specific person on trial and whether or not they have committed a crime/crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. Forensics and medical science are an infinitely more accurate method for estimating murders. Even just basing it off of a best guess by police on the scene would be way way way more accurate than using number of convictions.

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And countries that lie between the U.S. and the main source of cocaine in South America.

Yes, that's true too. Perhaps deaths in places like Afghanistan/Somalia could also be attributed to not only war, but also to terrorism rather than murder.

You can learn about these mysteries of methodology by following the link to the source. The specific type of killing required for this list is the legal definition of homicide, which removes suicide and war deaths (but not necessarily civil hostilities) right off the bat. The UNODC (UN Office of Drugs & Crime, which is the compiler of these data) also elected to exclude justifiable homicide (e.g. self-defense) and unintentional killings from accidents, even if negligence was involved. The UNODC is using a boatload of sources to compile their numbers, which are listed in the Wikipedia article; there’s also some info on which numbers are probably accurate, and which probably aren’t, although to get a beefier understanding you’d have to go to the (very beefy) methodology document from the UNODC.

vomitingdiamonds, murder is the "unlawful" killing of another human being. In a country like Syria or Afghanistan, law is definitely a matter of perspective and you'll get a different answer depending on which side you ask.

Unfortunately, you're probably right in general. Latin American gangs are responsible for soooo many murders.

High temperatures? What about Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam... India, Australia?

Well, there'd be a big spike in Israel, circa 30 AD (according to certain sources), then pretty much it would flat line (!) until modern medicine and science started working their magic