For this quiz, the definition of Turkic people will be ethnic Turks and Turkic-speaking minorities. Former countries that did not assimilate during their occupation of Turkic lands (e.g. Tang dynasty) are not considered. Turks that occupied other regions and lost their identities as time went on are also excluded. Hunnic controlled regions are highlighted but not included in this quiz as they are believed to be Turkic but not enough backing information exists
Tributaries and regions under heavy influence are included.
While this probably is not perfect, this map should be a rough representation of how far Turkic powers have reached.
It would be very cool to learn the history around this, like Indonesia, Somalia, that super long strip into Africa, and why they never controlled that one tiny piece of Russia. Great quiz, nominated
I'm not sure of Indonesia but the strips of Africa were its vassal states and that chunk in Russia wasn't caused by just 1 empire. It was several countries that took over both sides of the land there but somehow none of them invaded that region. I will assume it's due to the mountainous biome.
Really nice quiz! I can tell this involved a lot of research. I know you said that you don't know what the Turks controlled in Malaysia/Indonesia, but do you have a source? I'm somewhat curious about that.
I'm also curious about that piece of land in what appears to be Gujarat. Was that just something that the Mughals never conquered?
Thanks! Those SVGs actually don't take far too long. This map took me about 2 days, and just about 3-4 hours total. It's much easier to make compared to some other maps such as Dekkie's Europe in 1360.
I don't have to edit too many properties apart from just adding a few classes and changing up the ids sometimes. It's easier for me and also on my computer
They were all tributaries. Burkina Faso is a part for that Moroccan kingdom (Saadi iirc?) Indonesia is Aceh, an Ottoman vassal. Finland is part of the Duchies that are vassals of the Golden Horde
1) Armenian Genocide is a controversial thing. There are some researches made by American scientists (not Turkish) and they say Armenian Genocide wasn’t real. I don’t say Armenian Genocide is real or not. But it is controversial topic. There are many things about Armenian Genocide. NONE of them are proved.
2) We don’t hate Kurds. We don’t kill Kurds. Kurds are ethnically Kurd, but they still have Turkish citizenship. They are Turkish. We love Kurds.
3) Who said every country should be multicultural? South Korea is the second least diverse country in the world. And it is one of the most developed countries in the world.
4) Alevis are muslims. Everyone consider Alevis as muslims in Turkey. Only difference is the sects (Sunni-Shia)
5) I have Armenian, Kurd and Alevi friends. I love all of them. We don’t hate them. We don’t kill them.
Ahhhh, no. The only controversy is how many hundreds of thousands of Armenians were murdered. Turkey says it was 300k and the Armenians say it was 1.5 million. Turkey does not think that counts as "genocide". So if you want to say the "controversy" is about the semantics of genocide vs systematic murder OK I agree with you but there is absolutely no doubt that there was an attempt to exterminate an entire population of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire.
If it was, it would reached Vietnam. Out of the 4 Mongol Khanates, the Golden Horde was later Turkified and that explains the Russian lands. As for China and Mongolia, that's the Turkic Khaganates, Uyghur Khanate, Great Jin, as well as (later sinicized) Turkic Empires in Northern China
By great Jin do you mean the Jurchen Jin dynasty? The Jurchens are actually the same as the Manchus, and are Tungusic instead of Turkic, and they were also deeply Sinicized after they conquered northern China. I don't think northern China has ever been under Turkic control, probably except for the An-Shi rebellion, whose leader is of dubious Turkic origin, which have briefly occupied northern China for some time.
According to wiki articles, Ceuta and Melilla were already Spanish territories when the Saadi Sultanate became an Ottoman vassal and weren't taken over by Ottoman Turks
This was a fantastic quiz. The map means it's not too tricky, even if you don't know much of the history of the Turkic peoples - as long as you know modern geography - but it does raise many interesting questions about the history of certain places, which has lead me down a but of a Wikipedia rabbit hole. I am wondering though - I didn't think Tamil Nadu and Kerala ever came under Mughal rule, so I'm wondering on what basis they are included on the map. Was it a tributary situation? Anyway, not a big deal as it doesn't impact the actual answers, but I'm just curious.
Life isn't about points.. And it isn't always about showing what you already know either, this is an instance where you could expand your knowledge. The map gives a nice insight, so afterwards, you know a bit more about history
Good quiz. But just curious why you included the map? Obviously its your quz and so your choice. But the map turns it less into a test of knowledge of Turkic history and just one of knowing geography/countries of the world. Either way, thanks for the quiz.
Thanks. I included the map as I thought it would probably be a good visualization of the extent of Turkic powers and would simply look better than a blank text quiz.
It was never invaded because it surrendered preemptively before the Mongols could invade, but they did agree to willingly become a vassal and began paying tribute to the khans of the Golden Horde. So yes, it was in fact subordinate to the Mongols/Golden Horde.
What about the modern-day Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla? If so, shouldn't Spain also be added to the list? The same applies to the modern-day British territories (sovereign bases) in Cyprus.
Was surprised to see parts of Finland/Karelia here. There are actually theories that Uralic and Turkic languages came from the same place thousands of years ago but it's very hard to trace Uralic languages back that far.
It's a bit late, but I'll comment for everyone else. The dark areas are areas that the Huns controlled. We believe they were Turkic, but we don't have enough data to confirm.
For this quiz, the definition of Turkic people will be ethnic Turks and Turkic-speaking minorities. Former countries that did not assimilate during their occupation of Turkic lands (e.g. Tang dynasty) are not considered. Turks that occupied other regions and lost their identities as time went on are also excluded. Hunnic controlled regions are highlighted but not included in this quiz as they are believed to be Turkic but not enough backing information exists
Tributaries and regions under heavy influence are included.
While this probably is not perfect, this map should be a rough representation of how far Turkic powers have reached.
I'm also curious about that piece of land in what appears to be Gujarat. Was that just something that the Mughals never conquered?
As for that chunk in India, yeah it seems like the Mughals somehow missed it, it was not highlighted as part of any Turkic powers
Also, thanks!
1) Armenian Genocide is a controversial thing. There are some researches made by American scientists (not Turkish) and they say Armenian Genocide wasn’t real. I don’t say Armenian Genocide is real or not. But it is controversial topic. There are many things about Armenian Genocide. NONE of them are proved.
2) We don’t hate Kurds. We don’t kill Kurds. Kurds are ethnically Kurd, but they still have Turkish citizenship. They are Turkish. We love Kurds.
3) Who said every country should be multicultural? South Korea is the second least diverse country in the world. And it is one of the most developed countries in the world.
4) Alevis are muslims. Everyone consider Alevis as muslims in Turkey. Only difference is the sects (Sunni-Shia)
5) I have Armenian, Kurd and Alevi friends. I love all of them. We don’t hate them. We don’t kill them.
I've made a quiz on Germanic people (which I'm yet to update :P) already, which includes the UK
If you want just the British Empire, I'm sure Dekkie has made a such quiz
Time to farm by translating this to FrenchAccording to wiki articles, Ceuta and Melilla were already Spanish territories when the Saadi Sultanate became an Ottoman vassal and weren't taken over by Ottoman Turks
Those parts were once controlled by the Qutb Shahi dynasty, which was under Turkoman rule
I mean, they didn't conquer the far south as shown in the map.
Oh and they worshipped onions religiously /j
Turkic history is not only Ottomans bro
It is autonomous republic in russia it is Turkic but not in the map ?!?