Please note the correct answer is Germany, because East and West Germany were not created until 1949. The Berlin Wall, pictured, was not built until 1961.
Please note that the water is not light blue, its more colorless than blue really.
On a more serious note, even if he put the date at 1961 or 1962, what difference will that make? The map would stay the same. Malta isn't independent until 1964, the USSR, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia are still there. Just imagine it as the map of Europe after WWII ended until the independence of Malta, which would be the only real change and I'm sure the title could stay the same. Other than that, you're just being very nitpicky.
Well, to actually leave a reply to something unrelated to what he is talking about, on the top of the quiz, I'm sure he want everybody to know such minor details.
There are some really weird comments coming in response to what I said above. In 1946 there was only Germany. No East Germany, no West Germany. They both came 3 years later. Please fix this quiz!!!!
@Svitapeneela @Carry No Korean calls South Korea "South Korea" and North Korea "North Korea". They think that they control the entire peninsula, does that stop them from being countries, of course not
Jerry928 is quite right and making a perfectly valid point. And as for nitpicking - Gamer, don't tell me you have reached level 55 in Jetpunk without ever coming across nitpicking before! :-) This site is the promised land for all us hair-splitters and smart asses!
I'm not sure why this quiz has never been corrected. In 1946, Germany was partitioned under several allied protectorates under the agreement formed at the Potsdam Conference and was generally referred to as "Allied-Occupied Germany". The country that would come to be called West Germany did not exist until 1949.
The easiest way to fix this would be to change the date in the quiz description to 1949. This is still "after World War II" and gives a pretty accurate description of the state of affairs in Europe following the war.
Although I'm with you about the date being deceptive, the discussion about "the Berlin Wall being shown" is misinformed. Ever since the division of Germany, there was East and West Berlin, just as there was East and West Germany. The erection of the wall was a notable event, but it didn't change the political borders any further. 1949 would be a fine date for this map.
That is not necessarily the Berlin Wall "pictured" on the map. The Berlin Wall was simply built around the allied-occupied west Berlin. So it is not the Wall but the border.
I understand people are complaining, but you know what Kolji means and if you look at that map and think: 'that border in the middle of Germany must be a mistake, the west east thing hasn't been sorted out yet, so therefore I'm not going to bother trying West Germany' then you deserve it. Stop complaining and just play his quizzes. They are my favourites.
Gamer1162 Does it really matter what colour the water is? The quiz is about the countries not the oceans and/or seas. Even so, the water appears blue and you should therefore cut it some slack.
Count me with Jerry on this one, even though I agree that there's a de facto/de jure thing going on here. (Which I believe, as others have said, could be solved by shifting the date to 1949.)
@antofagasta That is like saying, on a quiz about flowers, if there is a picture of a cow, calling it out is nitpicking because you know what is meant. But it is about flowers so it shouldnt be there, regardless if you know what was meant.
As for nitpicking, there are (way) more nitpickers here that nitpick on so called nitpickers than actual nitpickers, and that is saying quite a lot, it is not a rare thing to find on this site. But people that nag and whine just because someone pointing out an error. (And I mean error, not preference or disputabe stuff) are 100x worse.
Nitpicking to me is about things that do not change the validity of the quiz, like how the netherlands is absolutely butchered on this map and is hardly recognisable. Or wether micronesia should be listed under F or M. But if it is say a quiz of list all the countries of europe and paraguay is on there, pointing that out is NOT nitpicking. Asking/expecting a quiz to have the correct answers is not nitpicking.
Saying that a country isnt written with a capital letter, yes that is nitpicking. (Or that isn't written as isnt ;) ). Or that something isnt in alphabetical order.
Or my favourite. For instance people with famous last names. Let's say the last name Wright. "you left out/should accept Jonathan Wright, he was the waiter in 1 episode of a show that got canceled after one season back in 1969" People insisting on stuff being added while it clearly doesnt fit the bill. Correct as in having that last name, but obviously not what they were looking for.
2019 is after World War 2, but saying "Countries of Europe after World War 2" does indicate right after the war ended, not "Countries of Europe at some random point in the infinite timeline to follow World War 2".
So the nitpicking is actually people saying ANY time after May, 1945 is "after World War 2" because then you have no set point for which countries to exclude.
Because Romania was independent of the USSR and Albania was never part of Yugoslavia. Hence Romania's infamous dictator, Nicolae Ceausescu, who ruled with an iron fist even by the standards of Eastern European communism and became an outcast within the Eastern Bloc. Likewise, Albania's Enver Hoxha became Mao's only foreign ally in the wake of the Sino-Soviet Split - not particularly impressive compared to the USSR's global network of alliances.
Also the Italian-Yugoslav border was nothing like this, I guess oficially it was still at pre-war location, as the peace treaty was signed only next year and defined most of the border while creating Free Territory of Trieste
I agree with the quiz being this way and it seems obvious because there were two Germanys at this point in history and it's staring you right in the face on the map and the convention in English is and always has been to call them East Germany and West Germany.... but if Germany is not accepted for West Germany on this quiz then why would it be on certain other quizzes. I recall one of mine in particular that was featured and had the type-ins changed to accept only Gemany without the West.
Kal, you are not making sense. The map of 1946 Germany on this quiz is incorrect, and even though it is staring us right in the face it is still not true. If you check the facts, you learn that in 1946 there was still officially only one Germany.
People are definitely correct about Germany, the two states were both founded in 1949. At least accept FRG (Federal Republic of Germany) and GDR (German Democratic Republic) for the incredibly inaccurate East and West Germany. At that time Germans were still considering East Germany to be those bits they lost in 1945, which have bave part of Poland and Russia for so long now that it is easy to forget how people felt about them back then.
How is it "incredibly inaccurate?" You have some alternative compass that you are using? Would you say North and South Korea is also "incredibly inaccurate?" That's not what Koreans call the countries. But that couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to an English-language quiz site where the answers are in English and the convention has always been to refer to the countries as such.
Assuming this quiz is fixed e.g. by changing the year to 1949, it would seem reasonable to accept both the official country names (Federal Republic of Germany, or FRG in short, and German Democratic Republic, or GDR), as well as the widely-used West Germany and East Germany for the purposes of this and other quizzes. Maybe even the German abbreviations BRD and DDR could be considered. However, for 1946 those names are irrelevant.
Really Germany from 1945 till 1948 was divided up into 5 major Occupied Zones. British / American / Soviet / French with Berlin under Allied Military Administration. Also Poland annexed an area adjoining the Soviet sector. There was no clear cut division West / East.
And Saarland as a French protectorate that even competed in 1952 Olympics. In 1946 there was only one Germany, beeing occupied by four different states.
Just wondering - why is it spelled "slov" in Czechoslovakia, Slovakia, and Slovenia, but it is spelled "slav" in Yugoslavia? Is there a difference in meaning between "slov" and "slav"?
Well, in my language, Serbian (and probably most other Slavic languages) we don't say "Slavs", we say "Sloveni", so that's why it is spelled with an "O" in most of the countries.
Be careful with changing dates to solve German problem. Trieste was a truly independent state "under direct responsibility of U.N. Security Council" from 1947 to 1954. However Saar was only a French protectorate, despite having an international football team.
Saarland also had its own citizenship, own flag, and (very briefly) its own currency. It would not be wrong to count it as a country (IMHO). Then again, I think it is not wrong to not count it as a country :-) Don't know what the official criteria are for being a country.
Nitpickers aside, this was an excellent quiz! I guess that by time I began school, Germany had been divided, so I had no issue with the East/West thing; though we did learn them as the German Federal Republic (West) and the German Democratic Republic (East).
Your hints are not correct. Neither East Germany nor West Germany existed in 1946; they were founded only three years later. In 1946, there were only the four zones. You should change that.
Reiterating numerous comments above. Please change the date for this map to 1949 or later, or change East and West Germany to just Germany. This is completely inaccurate history.
I don't know why but I can't play this quiz. Everytime I open this quiz, it crashes and then after a few seconds it recovers only to crash again when I scroll.
I tried this on 2 different phones in two different browsers.
This map rather seems like a map of 1955 Europe (or Europe between 1955 and 1989) - both Austria and the two Germanies did not exist at the time (Austria unified and formed in 1955, Germanies in 1949). This is not about 'technicality' but the in an actual sense, no German or Austrian nation existed - the allies actually dissolved them all as occupation zones (unlike Japan or Italy).
Also, plz accept BRD for West Germany if you are going to keep the map as it is.
Definite agreement with everyone who says this is a 1955 map, not a 1946 map. There were no 'West Germany' and 'East Germany' until 1949 although there was a non-sovereign occupied Austria. Also, there are other borders that weren't settled until the Treaty of Paris 1947, and the border in the Trieste area wasn't made definite until 1954.
WWII ended in 1945 and Germany already existed after Prussia dissolved. Austria was Austria-Hungary (Austria, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia ect.) before WWI and Germany was already Germany before WWI.
The germanys and austria didnt exist in 1946, they were formed as independent countries in 1949. in 1946 they still were part of the usa, uk france and ussr.
Germany should still be one, or none at all and just have the zones of occupation, since both East and West Germany were only formed in 1949. Also, the Saar Protectorate sould be included.
On a more serious note, even if he put the date at 1961 or 1962, what difference will that make? The map would stay the same. Malta isn't independent until 1964, the USSR, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia are still there. Just imagine it as the map of Europe after WWII ended until the independence of Malta, which would be the only real change and I'm sure the title could stay the same. Other than that, you're just being very nitpicky.
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The easiest way to fix this would be to change the date in the quiz description to 1949. This is still "after World War II" and gives a pretty accurate description of the state of affairs in Europe following the war.
As for nitpicking, there are (way) more nitpickers here that nitpick on so called nitpickers than actual nitpickers, and that is saying quite a lot, it is not a rare thing to find on this site. But people that nag and whine just because someone pointing out an error. (And I mean error, not preference or disputabe stuff) are 100x worse.
Nitpicking to me is about things that do not change the validity of the quiz, like how the netherlands is absolutely butchered on this map and is hardly recognisable. Or wether micronesia should be listed under F or M. But if it is say a quiz of list all the countries of europe and paraguay is on there, pointing that out is NOT nitpicking. Asking/expecting a quiz to have the correct answers is not nitpicking.
Or my favourite. For instance people with famous last names. Let's say the last name Wright. "you left out/should accept Jonathan Wright, he was the waiter in 1 episode of a show that got canceled after one season back in 1969" People insisting on stuff being added while it clearly doesnt fit the bill. Correct as in having that last name, but obviously not what they were looking for.
Hmm... doesn't really have the same appeal, does it?
So the nitpicking is actually people saying ANY time after May, 1945 is "after World War 2" because then you have no set point for which countries to exclude.
Well, in my language, Serbian (and probably most other Slavic languages) we don't say "Slavs", we say "Sloveni", so that's why it is spelled with an "O" in most of the countries.
If he's faking it, that's quite disrespectful, but it's also pretty disrespectful to assume it can't happen.
- West Germany and East Germany were formed in 1949, beforehand they were only occupied zones by the USSR, UK, France, and the USA.
I tried this on 2 different phones in two different browsers.
Also, plz accept BRD for West Germany if you are going to keep the map as it is.
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Nice quiz, I suggest to reduce a little bit of time