While it may not be reasonable to expect Quizmaster to go to each country's primary sources (although in the instance of "large cities in Oceania" it wouldn't be hard, as only Australia, NZ, and USA have any), it's not unreasonable to expect citypopulation.de to use primary source information from each country without arbitrarily altering it on a whim.
Just to throw a spanner in the works, while citypopulation.de decided to unilaterally merge two separate cities on its list of world agglomerations over 1m pop, it *doesn't* merge the same two cities on its list of Australian agglomerations:
This second source from citypopulation.de not only correctly lists Gold Coast and Brisbane as separate cities, but also correctly lists Canberra an Newcastle as being large enough to be listed in this quiz.
Whatever criteria they're using for this, and to combine Brisbane and Gold Coast in Australia, would also - if consistently applied - combine NYC and Philadelphia (and possibly Boston and Washington).
Come on, it should have counted!
"Belo" is just wrong.
Makes me wish Nicosia were big enough to make the European cutoff.
A better analogy would perhaps be saying that Mallorca is part of Africa. Mallorca is a constituent part of Spain. It's closer to the European mainland than it is to Africa. There's not really any good reason to put it in Africa. But it sits in the middle of the Mediterranean so it could go either way...
or perhaps arguing that the island of Rhodes is a part of Asia. Rhodes is close to the island of Cyprus which is usually counted as part of Asia. However it is closer to Greece than it is to Cyprus (though closer to the Asian mainland than the European one). And it is a part of Greece. So is it Europe? Or Asia? I think there's a stronger case for Hawaii being North American than for Rhodes being European.
It should be erased to make all quizzes easier... (just kidding)
I know that's kind of ridiculous, but they've done that with Brisbane and Gold Coast in Australia - two separate cities whose outer reaches abut each other, so by the same logic Philly is part of NYC.
Does anybody know why citypopulation.de does it this way? It seems arbitrary to me. Though I suppose you have to draw a line somewhere and that always will be somewhat arbitrary.
I don't think cultural similarities carry weight either, because there is a multitude of cultures on every continent. If Hawaiian is Oceanian because of its culture, then New Zealand is European. It does raise questions about territories though...I don't think anyone would consider Guam North American, for example. Anyway, the new Jimmy Eat World song is pretty good.
If you're using urban areas, Wellington is 209,000 (and FYI Christchurch is 374,000) (https://www.citypopulation.de/en/newzealand/cities/) yet Canberra is 432,000 so still above Wgtn (and Chch). Newcastle drops down to 322,000. https://www.citypopulation.de/Australia-UC.html
So it seems anyway you look at it Canberra pips Wellington and Guangzhou. And Newcastle too if you're consistent in using agglomerations, as ur using the Wgtn agglom not urban area.
(Even if you include Kapiti in the Wellington agglom,, which NZ stats do not, Wellington would be abt 465,000, so it's still pipped by Newcastle).
Ok, Oceanic pedantry over. I've probably bored many non-Oceanians too much...
Gold Coast (718k) is not part of Brisbane (2.58m), and should make the list in its own right.
While the M1 corridor between the two cities is becoming developed along its length, they are considered separate cities by Australians, and indeed by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, our peak demographic institution. If they're the same city, then by the same criteria, so are New York and Philadelphia.
Canberra (463k) and Newcastle (505k) are both bigger than 1% of Oceania (and are both bigger than Wellington), and should make the list.
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