Edited to add the "Show Missing Countries" feature, fix Finland's borders and grey some European possessions in the Americas and Oceania. Thanks for playing!
This is a good quiz, but about 10 countries aren't shown in yellow, even if you zoom in (like Andorra, Vatican, San Marino to name a few). A 'Show Missing Countries' link would also be useful.
Ththey are too small. The only reason you can see the countries on the map is their outline, which is a grey colour like the other outlines. Andorra is a bit larger, but it's still overshadowed by the other countries, covered by their outline. The counties are yellow, but you cannot see that unless you scale the map even more.
That's the Monroe Doctrine at work. The United States made sure that the Americas did not go through the same level of European meddling as Africa or Asia did. (and yes, before someone points it out, that didn't stop the USA from limited meddling itself)
I just meant that the US never formally colonized or annexed any of the Americas south of the Rio Grande, as the European colonial powers had done to the entire world for centuries. To America, empire had become a dirty word. That was the self-imposed limit on their meddling.
I enjoyed this quiz. Great idea. I wasn't aware that Hatay existed before I took it. Would it be possible for overseas territories and dependencies to turn green when the home country does? It would be interesting to have the visual of which nations administered/controlled these territories at the time.
I might be wrong, but I don't think Hatay can be said to have been independent. I don't think there was any time at which neither the French nor the Turks had significant levels of formal and real control. The Maldives, on the other hand, was autonomous and sovereign in every meaningful way. In 1887, the Sultan signed a treaty with the UK, establishing it officially as a protectorate, but no Brits - none, official or private - resided in the islands, and they did not influence laws or trade. When World War II started, the RAF had to bargain to lease one island to use as an air base - a lease later unilaterally terminated by the Maldivian government. The Maldivian sultans were unfree, it's true, to make alliances with the USSR or Japan (since their protectorate agreement was essentially an alliance with the UK), but that was far less an imposition than the average IMF conditionality or "free trade" clause. So, fetishize the absolute nature of sovereignty at your peril.
I may not be right here, but I believe that Iceland remained an autonomous part of Denmark until the end of the war. In 1938, it is technically not its own country yet
Abyssinia (Ethiopia) should be there. It was invaded by Italy in 1935 and occupied for 5 years but it was never a colony. Much like France or the Netherlands in WWII.
Never heard of Tuva before... but I got Hatay because it's the country that Indiana Jones visits in the Last Crusade before going off to search for the Holy Grail. I looked it up because I was curious if it was a fictional place or not. Got everything else.
I never saw the "greyness" of South-East Asia that obvious. I am somehow shocked. Although Japan was itself quite imperialistic, from an other (this!) point of view the asian part of WW2 looks more like an anti-imperialistic war for independence.
In what way? Asia in WW2 was Japanese imperialism clashing with European imperialism, plus China. It was after the war that the Asian independence movements kicked off.
One of Mussolini's social changes was to separate the 1,600 year old grip of the Vatican on Italian politics. He also made the trains run on time. Other than bringing him back to run Amtrak he'd be pretty useless today.
I don't know how easy it is to get this, but: a "show missings"-button would be useful, like in the "normal" countries of the world quiz. I almost missed the microstates.
I feel that Algeria should be colored green when typing in France. Unlike its other colonies, Algeria was in fact an incorporated part of France, with departments like in metropolitan France.
Although I acknowledge we might be getting ourselves on slippery ground once colonies get involved...
Liechtenstein and Monaco not being on the map threw me off - no excuse, but sadly true. Also, I kept trying NORTH YEMEN, which should have worked. Can you please update? The official names were the Yemen Arab Republic (North Yemen) and the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (South Yemen).
If I could I would put a "show missing countries" button like on the original quiz! Also, North/South Yemen did not exist then, because the division was a part of the Cold War.
Missed all the ones after the drop-off in percentages and also Andorra because I'm a big dumb-dumb who can't count properly when keeping track of the small countries.
I'd also love to see the grey bits turn green, when the country is guessed. That way you'd be able to see how much each country controlled, while not having to actually type the territory.
Good that a map was included. For present day countries I Dont really need it, but when it goes back in time I am not fully aware what was around at what year. So a map is very helpfull then.
Enjoyed the quiz. But I found some errors in the map given:
1. Ecuadorian-Peruvian border did not take the shape of modern day until the war of '41 and settlements afterwards. //
2. Commonwealth nations of Canada, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand were de facto independent by this point but had their rights partially held by Westminster until certain bureaucratic processes were made (such as British right to amend kiwi and Canadian constitution) //
+) The Kingdom of Egypt was established in 1922, but it was under permanent British occupation with technically being and client state until 1956 //
+) Iceland did not have diplomatic liberty until Denmark was occupied by the nazis and until their independence was granted in post-war treaties //
3. Danzig was an international territory like Tangiers and LoN Mandates, and was practically controlled by Poland - not really independent
All of my data is based on the Wikipedia article in the description. The borders are in line with the map included in said article, although I do agree the Finnish border is a little inaccurate. I tried adding French Pondicherry but it was so small on the map that I left it. Canada was not fully independent, technically, until 1982 when we made our constitution but I think everyone can agree we were a country before then.
Great quiz, but why is French Guiana in yellow but British and Dutch Guianas in grey? French Guiana, like British Guiana and Dutch Suriname, was a colony in 1938 and not yet an overseas department.
hmmm wasn't Newfoundland a separate dominion like Canada? Tuva was not recognised as independent by anyone but its neighbours.... and by the time Hatay was 'independent' under that name the Anschluss had happened so Austria should not be listed....
Newfoundland's dominion status was revoked by 1938 due to poor governance. As for Hatay and Tannu Tuva, I'm going off of what my source, Wikipedia, has listed.
hehe I was looking at Wikipedia too! Tuva was like South Ossetia (or 5 or 6 others) today - self-governing but with no widespread recognition and effectively under Russian control. Both Hatay and Austria were technically independent in 1938 yes, but not simultaneously! Hatay's independence dated from September, 6 months after Austria was swallowed up by Germany. Also, as far as I was aware, Iceland was part of the Danish crown, albeit with autonomy, until WW2 - so like Greenland is today.
I guess that is a flaw then, where I cannot make a map that properly shows all of the countries that were independent in 1938 haha (too much happened that year and all). For sure some of these countries are debatable, whether or not they should be included. Tibet also was unrecognised, for example. No problem, I think it's important to reply to as many comments as I can, although I do miss a few. Thanks for your insight :)
It is completely due to the level of sovereignty. States such as Tibet and Tannu Tuva had little recognition, but they still effectively existed as sovereign nations. I did not come up with the list myself, my source is in the caveat atop the page, but I agree with what was included/excluded.
Good quiz, but you need to fix the Peru-Ecuador border in regard that it only was ceded in 1941, and Newfoundland enjoyed dominion status same as Canada. Also, Iceland was not independent and if Egypt is listed as independent Oman should be as well.
According to Wikipedia, the border as of 1936 was "was very similar to that established by the Rio de Janeiro Protocol 5 years later" (which is the same as the modern border). Ecuador claimed much more territory prior to that, but it didn't control the claimed territory.
Newfoundland lost its status as a dominion in 1934, after going bankrupt during the Depression. While Iceland was associated with Denmark and shared a monarch, Iceland was widely recognised as a sovereign state. There was British influence in Egypt, but from 1936 they only had a military presence and Egypt was its own kingdom, unlike Oman which remained a British Protectorate straight through until 1970. Therefore I will not change these countries.
Tonga should be included. It was never colonised. It did enter into a protection treaty with the UK in 1900 but it continued to set all domestic and foreign policy and retained its monarchy.
It is the only south pacific nation to have always retained its independence.
It was far more independent than Tuva or Hatay and no less so than e.g. Mongolia which also had a protection agreement (with USSR) and in reality did exactly what the Soviets told them to.
Otherwise, great quiz!
Tell that to Salvadore Allande
Although I acknowledge we might be getting ourselves on slippery ground once colonies get involved...
Good that a map was included. For present day countries I Dont really need it, but when it goes back in time I am not fully aware what was around at what year. So a map is very helpfull then.
1. Ecuadorian-Peruvian border did not take the shape of modern day until the war of '41 and settlements afterwards. //
2. Commonwealth nations of Canada, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand were de facto independent by this point but had their rights partially held by Westminster until certain bureaucratic processes were made (such as British right to amend kiwi and Canadian constitution) //
+) The Kingdom of Egypt was established in 1922, but it was under permanent British occupation with technically being and client state until 1956 //
+) Iceland did not have diplomatic liberty until Denmark was occupied by the nazis and until their independence was granted in post-war treaties //
3. Danzig was an international territory like Tangiers and LoN Mandates, and was practically controlled by Poland - not really independent
5. Colonial Oman and Trucial States division not shown //
6. Colonial border of French Pondicherry and British Raj not shown //
7. Inaccurate shape of Northern German-Polish border
Sorry, I cannot use paragraph breaks in jetpunk apparently...
The aforementioned article does not include a map. Or has since removed it because of inaccuracies.
Why is the puppet state of Tuva included but not the puppet state of Manchukuo?
Will rate higher after these fixes
Newfoundland lost its status as a dominion in 1934, after going bankrupt during the Depression. While Iceland was associated with Denmark and shared a monarch, Iceland was widely recognised as a sovereign state. There was British influence in Egypt, but from 1936 they only had a military presence and Egypt was its own kingdom, unlike Oman which remained a British Protectorate straight through until 1970. Therefore I will not change these countries.
It is the only south pacific nation to have always retained its independence.
It was far more independent than Tuva or Hatay and no less so than e.g. Mongolia which also had a protection agreement (with USSR) and in reality did exactly what the Soviets told them to.
2. Iceland got independence in 1940
3. Hatay wasn't independent
Was Tianjin formally annexed to Japan?