One big difference between Asia and Europe, is that with Europe I could comfortably cover just about every language spoken as a majority in just about every given area. In Asia, thanks to factors including massive geographic barriers, great amounts of diversity and lower levels of education and thus survival of minority languages, there are several areas of smaller unrecognised languages that have been left grey.
Some areas have been simplified. For example, while people may assume that Israel=Hebrew-speaking, Palestine=Arabic-speaking, the truth is that Hebrew is spoken throughout the West Bank and Arabic is spoken in locations across the north of Israel. I cannot show all detail through this medium.
To generalise, Asian countries are less likely to have the same 'clear-cut' recognition of minority languages as their European counterparts. Some recognise dozens, while others recognise one. There is unavoidable subjectivity here.
English is actually the largest spoken language in Singapore and Christmas Island, however since it and Portuguese are not the majority first language anywhere in Asia, they are automatically filled in.
I tried to choose the flags that fit the language the best. I have done my best to avoid controversial flags, but if there are any flags of guerilla movements for whatever reason I will replace them.
I cannot show it on the map, but sadly many of these languages are in decline, and will soon be transparent (in the likes of Assyrian or Ainu) for a variety of factors including migration, modernisation, etc. (not saying these factors are bad, but rather have unfortunate consequences for the minority languages).
There is too much to say about the quiz, I hope I covered everything important! Will try and do one for the Americas next :)
Thanks for playing, and I'm glad you liked the quiz! I found it interesting to learn about the Batak languages too when researching this quiz, I hadn't heard about them prior :)
This quiz is very very interesting and fun. Would you consider including some local languages of Malaysian Borneo as well like (Kadazan & Dusun for Sabah and Iban for Sarawak?), since most of these regions of the island where they’re indigenous are left grey except for Malay in Sarawak. Although these languages aren’t official in both states, there are standardised varieties which are taught in national schools where those ethnicities form the majority.
Thank you very much! I will consider them, although there is a good chance the list here is finalised. I do think it's unfortunate that Borneo is mostly grey at this point. Malaysia is a country in which I could only add Malay from, since the status of the other languages seemed unclear/unofficial. On a side note I'm very happy to hear that those languages are taught in Sarawak and Sabah, that seems to be a rarity in many other linguistically diverse nations.
That is true, I had to make a note for myself so that I left them grey, to represent the languages there that couldn't be included on this quiz. I would like to include them in a future quiz, perhaps, they deserve the recognition.
Not at the moment, unfortunately. I was planning on doing North/South America seperately but some territories recognise tens of Indigenous languages, while others don't recognise even their main language (lloking at you, Mexico). This means that more than half the languages in North America would be Indigenous languages from Alaska (ditto Bolivia in South America). The map is mostly complete, however.
Africa or even Oceania would probably make for better quizzes :P
Thank you! It took a good amount of work and research but I feel it was worth it. I will accept Okinawan shortly, as it is one of the Ryukyuan languages.
After playing it at least ten times I can still remember 100 only, what a shame.
I can't even begin to guess what will happen when you get to Oceania. I see you want to do the Americas next, and that will also be interesting, but I'm in love with Oceanian literatures at the moment...
Thank you, I am glad that you are enjoying this! :D
Oceania is a region that I am interested in covering. Most of the languages are from the same language family, but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be an interesting quiz.
Absolutely amazing! This is what I'm doing instead of paying attention to my chemistry class :') but it's worth it.
Two questions about this (one a question and one a suggestion):
1. In Nepal, Indonesia, and the Phillipines, how do nation-wide languages work? Like is it that everyone who doesn't speak the most prominent language (Nepali, Malay, Tagalog) as a first language learns it in school as a second language? Or is it more that they use colonial languages instead (English, Dutch, Spanish/English)?
2. For some reason, some of the labels of the language families don't show up while I take the quiz. For example, it didn't say "Tibetic," I just saw "1.7 million speakers." The problem resolved itself afterwards, but not during the quiz for some reason :/ I don't know if anyone else is having this problem but it might be worth looking into.
Thank you! I won't say anything, I play Jetpunk all the time during online lectures :)
To answer your comment,
1. It seems in those countries that the national language is used in school, alongside English. In Nepal they used to suppress some of the regional languages (such as Newari), but as a result of the Nepalese Civil War the Nepali language's exclusive use in government or courts is being challenged and regional languages are given rights (hence why they made it on this quiz!) When I was in Nepal, everyone could speak Nepali with me even if it was their second language, while English and Hindi were prevelant, but less spoken.
2. Don't worry, the labels are meant to be invisible at first. I hid the ones that gave away the names of individual languages' names. It's not a perfect solution by any means, but thankfully it's not a glitch either.
Thanks for the explanations! Although if you're trying to hide labels to avoid giving away answers, you might want to hide "Kiranti" as well, because I got "Sunuwar" based off of that :)
Thank you! Even today, Ainu heritage is often hidden due to shame. However, with more people embracing their heritage and culture it is completely possible that Ainu will live on. Cornish was extinct for many years, until there was renewed interesting in Cornish culture and identity, and now there are several fluent speakers and enthusiasts. It's not a perfect solution, but it's leagues better than the alternative.
That seems like quite the interesting language! I hadn't heard of it before, I may have confused them with the Hui people, who I am more familiar with.
I am undecided on that, to be honest an Americas quiz would have a huge amount of weight on Bolivian and Alaskan languages (probably over half of the quiz!)
Fabulous and challenging quiz, beautifully organised. There's something here for everyone to learn. Thank you Jiaoira! You obviously put a tonne of work into this!
No love for the Jewish Autonomous Oblast :( sure, hardly anyone there SPEAKS Yiddish, but it is still technically an official language! (still a great quiz, of course. i live in fear of the Oceania one - are you going to go for all 800-odd Papuan languages?)
Nice effort but I want to tell you that Formosan languages are not a language but a language family that consists more than 16 languages. Also, if you want to refer "Formosan languages" as Taiwanese indigenous languages (which I think is not right), then Yami language would have to be separated since Yami language is from the Batanic subgroup but not Formosan.
Same thing happens to the "Hokkien" languages. I think you are referred to the "Min language", but again, Min is actually a language family that consists of multiple languages.
Yes but Taiwan appears to recognise 'Formosan Languages' generally as a national language. Therefore the display name is 'Formosan Languages', and every single living Formosan Language is included as a type-in. I may change the display name of Hokkien to Min Chinese when I get the chance, maybe they are technically a 'language group', but the same can be said for other Chinese languages such as Mandarin.
If it was a quiz purely on Taiwanese languages, I would certainly go into much more detail. Thanks for letting me know about Yami by the way, it is not recognised in the same way, so I cannot include it, but I had no idea there was a Batanic language spoken in Taiwan!
I cannot agree with your statement that "but the same can be said for other Chinese languages such as Mandarin." since it is definitely not. Out of the seven groups of varieties of Chinese, Min is the only one that is considered to be a "language branch" by the linguisticians while the other six groups are a "language." Min has a much greater dialectal diversity than any of the other groups and is the only groups of varieties where their sub-languages (such as Southern Min, Pu-Xian, Northern Min, Eastern Min, Hainan...) are mutually unintelligible and that's why the sub-languages of Min should be considered distinct languages, as a native Southern Min speaker, I can tell you that this is definitely accurate. In contrast, the "sub-languages" of the other six groups of varieties of Chines are all mutually intelligible, that's why the "sub-languages" of these six groups are only dialects but not distinct languages. In conclusion, the language status of Min and Mandarin are not the same.
Also, for the part that you say that "Taiwan appears to recognise 'Formosan Languages' generally as a national language" is not accurate, from this website , you can see the 'Formosan Languages' are called "Indigenous languages" by the Taiwanese government since it includes Formosan Languages and the Yami language, and Taiwanese government generally display the name of "Indigenous languages" but not list out all 15 legal national languages is just out of simplicity basis, it does not mean that Taiwanese government recognize "Formosan languages" as a national language. Also, Matsu is also a national language of Taiwan accourding by Development of National Languages Act . Finally, extremely brilliant effort for the map that you have done and feel free to try my Languages of Taiwan quiz, this is a quiz purely on Taiwan
You are correct, I will change the title to something which includes Yami then. I will have to follow the same simplicity basis, for the sake of this quiz. I will have to figure out what to do with the Min languages, they don't appear to be recognised in China so I may grey out everything other than Hokkien on Taiwan, or perhaps I will change the name on the quiz. Changes will be a little slow, since I don't want to reset everyone's answer stats just yet. Thanks for playing and excellent quiz too! I just tried it out :D
Some scholars and earlier research would say that Hainanese is a dialect of the Hokkien (Southern Min) language, while more and more scholars think that Hainanese is an independent language nowadays since Southern Min and Hainanese is not mutually intelligible at all.
Hainanese should be considered its own language, the dialect/language distinction is more of a political definition than a linguistic one. Unfortunately, I have to go with the political definitions sometimes, for the sake of the quiz. I may make changes to the quiz, however, such as greying out that particular region on the map.
I have a version for the Americas which I almost finished, however I struggled with drawing some of the Indigenous languages / including both North and South America on one map so the project was put on hold.
As for now I have no plans to continue the series because of time constraints. If I could pick up the series again, I wish I could cover Africa next as it is the most fitting for this style of quiz!
I didn't think it would come so soon hahaha, the data comes from the Wikipedia pages for each country, if you look under 'language' they give you an idea what languages are official or recognised under different statuses (like minority languages).
Thank you for playing! Since Taiwan only appears to recognise 'Taiwanese Aboriginal Languages' more broadly, I found this to be the fairest response :)
Asterisks denote that only speakers in Asia are counted for L1 figures, while Indo-European language families are marked with a dagger (†)
Figures for the total speakers of each language family should be taken as estimations and do not include immigrant/'non-European' languages
One big difference between Asia and Europe, is that with Europe I could comfortably cover just about every language spoken as a majority in just about every given area. In Asia, thanks to factors including massive geographic barriers, great amounts of diversity and lower levels of education and thus survival of minority languages, there are several areas of smaller unrecognised languages that have been left grey.
Some areas have been simplified. For example, while people may assume that Israel=Hebrew-speaking, Palestine=Arabic-speaking, the truth is that Hebrew is spoken throughout the West Bank and Arabic is spoken in locations across the north of Israel. I cannot show all detail through this medium.
To generalise, Asian countries are less likely to have the same 'clear-cut' recognition of minority languages as their European counterparts. Some recognise dozens, while others recognise one. There is unavoidable subjectivity here.
English is actually the largest spoken language in Singapore and Christmas Island, however since it and Portuguese are not the majority first language anywhere in Asia, they are automatically filled in.
I tried to choose the flags that fit the language the best. I have done my best to avoid controversial flags, but if there are any flags of guerilla movements for whatever reason I will replace them.
I cannot show it on the map, but sadly many of these languages are in decline, and will soon be transparent (in the likes of Assyrian or Ainu) for a variety of factors including migration, modernisation, etc. (not saying these factors are bad, but rather have unfortunate consequences for the minority languages).
There is too much to say about the quiz, I hope I covered everything important! Will try and do one for the Americas next :)
Africa or even Oceania would probably make for better quizzes :P
After playing it at least ten times I can still remember 100 only, what a shame.
I can't even begin to guess what will happen when you get to Oceania. I see you want to do the Americas next, and that will also be interesting, but I'm in love with Oceanian literatures at the moment...
Oceania is a region that I am interested in covering. Most of the languages are from the same language family, but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be an interesting quiz.
Would you mind accepting Aceh for Acehnese, Altay for Altai, Iloko for Ilocano, Panjabi for Punjabi, and Winaray for Waray?
Two questions about this (one a question and one a suggestion):
1. In Nepal, Indonesia, and the Phillipines, how do nation-wide languages work? Like is it that everyone who doesn't speak the most prominent language (Nepali, Malay, Tagalog) as a first language learns it in school as a second language? Or is it more that they use colonial languages instead (English, Dutch, Spanish/English)?
2. For some reason, some of the labels of the language families don't show up while I take the quiz. For example, it didn't say "Tibetic," I just saw "1.7 million speakers." The problem resolved itself afterwards, but not during the quiz for some reason :/ I don't know if anyone else is having this problem but it might be worth looking into.
To answer your comment,
1. It seems in those countries that the national language is used in school, alongside English. In Nepal they used to suppress some of the regional languages (such as Newari), but as a result of the Nepalese Civil War the Nepali language's exclusive use in government or courts is being challenged and regional languages are given rights (hence why they made it on this quiz!) When I was in Nepal, everyone could speak Nepali with me even if it was their second language, while English and Hindi were prevelant, but less spoken.
2. Don't worry, the labels are meant to be invisible at first. I hid the ones that gave away the names of individual languages' names. It's not a perfect solution by any means, but thankfully it's not a glitch either.
"You just ruined my family's entire vacation"
"GIVE ME YOUR NINTENDO SWITCH YOUR TOO OLD FOR SILLY VIDEO GAMES ANYWAY"
"You will hear from my lawyers!"
I think I spend too much time on r/entitledparents...
That being said, I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole... ;-)
I don't blame you either, it isn't exactly a free 5 points :)
Glad to hear you enjoyed rediscovering it! :D
Same thing happens to the "Hokkien" languages. I think you are referred to the "Min language", but again, Min is actually a language family that consists of multiple languages.
If it was a quiz purely on Taiwanese languages, I would certainly go into much more detail. Thanks for letting me know about Yami by the way, it is not recognised in the same way, so I cannot include it, but I had no idea there was a Batanic language spoken in Taiwan!
I can fully understand that they are an immense lot of work to make, I'm just asking... please, if possible. :)
Happy new year, by the way!
I have a version for the Americas which I almost finished, however I struggled with drawing some of the Indigenous languages / including both North and South America on one map so the project was put on hold.
As for now I have no plans to continue the series because of time constraints. If I could pick up the series again, I wish I could cover Africa next as it is the most fitting for this style of quiz!
This is in no way useful to the quiz and probably isn’t worth wasting anyone’s time changing.