Can you name the 50 oldest existing modern countries, dating back from the establishment of the nation rather than the government.
Countries that had different names in the past but were essentially the same country are included, such as Zaire for the Democratic Republic of the Congo or the USSR for Russia.
FYROM or Macedonia was part of Yugoslavia. I don't understand why it is in. Albania is in because it was never I. Yugoslavia and thus has been a country for this long. Greece is not in because of the Ottoman Empire, which Turkey controlled. Therefore Turkey is still included but Greece was not because it was part of the Ottoman Empire
Albania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Bosnia and other countries (including Greece) were all part of the Ottoman Empire and are still in. Actually in 808 BC was formed the ancient Macedonia which was a kingdom in ancient Greece and not the country FYROM. You see now how that's offensive to Greeks?
Ancient Greece was not a unified state. It consisted of thousands of city states that were constantly fighting each other and although they all spoke the same language and worshiped the same gods, the unified national sense of being Greek didn't exist.
Yes but it was Alexander The Great who unified Greece. The country Fyrom is in no possible way a successor of the ancient Macedonia since they are Slavs.
After some research, I discovered that you were right about Macedonia being overwhelmingly Slavic (I know a fair amount about European history, but I don't come close to knowing everything). I also tweaked the founding of Greece to the unification of the city states by Philip of Macedon in the 4th century B.C. I apologize for having offended anyone.
PanosG31 Greece was once a great nation or series of nations but how the tables have turned today. Those days are LONG over and Greece's poverty today is notorious. Also a nation's continuality is not dependant on it's race. There are now many Slavs in Greece but that doesn't mean they're not Greek just because they aren't descended from Anatolian farmers the way the olive skinned ones are.
Isn’t India suppose to be here?I mean if we’re talking about the last time it got independence from a country, then India wouldn’t be on here, but their civilization dates all the way back to 2500BC according to my research. Their name was the Indus Valley Civilization
I think (this is from a very vague idea of mine, so it may be wrong) that India was a patchwork of independent states before the Raj, and even though there may have been some kind of Indian consciousness of nationality, rather like the Arab "nation" nowadays, they weren't politically one independent country until 1948.
I'm late but I don't care. Greece's first form was the Mycenaean civilization which started around 1750 BC. However, if you count the Minoan and the Cycladic civilization as well, then Greece dates back to 3400 BC. Also, there are a lot of other mistakes. For example: India is not in.
Late also. If you're including countries that were conquered by the Ottoman Empire, and you're including "Morocco," then I would argue Tunisia at 1229 should be on the list.
Israel? Is the connection between ancient and modern Israel based on language, religions, genetics, borders,....? The connection is rather ambiguous. If you include Israel, you need to include Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Their modern origins may be post WWI but the connection to the ancient versions are as strong if not stronger than Israel.
I'm not sure about Iraq and the Lebanon but in the case of Syria I wonder if you're conflating Syria and Assyria. My one Syrian friend thinks of them as quite separate things, rather like the difference between Ancient Rome and modern Italy, and insists that Syria is basically a new country.
You have morocco as a country but not tunisia even though modern morocco is not the same as the berber states of north africa.
Hungary but no romania.
Modern egypt has no relationship with ancient egypt. But is thier. however no italy despite having a closer relationship with rome than modern egypt to ancient egypt.
The modern states of Egypt and Israel have little to do politically with Ancient Egypt or the Judean kingdoms. They are not the only ones in this situation, Morocco, Myanmar or Poland fall in the same category. There is no continuous line of power in them as there are in China or Japan.
For Spain and the UK the dates are those of unification of the modern state. By the criteria used for Egypt, it could be argued Spain's foundational date is 507 (start of the first Visigoth kingdom in the peninsula) and 1066 for the UK (start of William the Conqueror's reign).
You have morocco as a country but not tunisia even though modern morocco is not the same as the berber states of north africa.
Hungary but no romania.
Modern egypt has no relationship with ancient egypt. But is thier. however no italy despite having a closer relationship with rome than modern egypt to ancient egypt.
No india or srilanka,
It makes no sense.
For Spain and the UK the dates are those of unification of the modern state. By the criteria used for Egypt, it could be argued Spain's foundational date is 507 (start of the first Visigoth kingdom in the peninsula) and 1066 for the UK (start of William the Conqueror's reign).
Would consider clarifying what the dates mean.