I thought so too at first. But then I looked closer:
Jutland includes the North Jutlandic Island, which is... maybe an island?
(Short version: it didn't use to be, but has been since a storm in 1825, but is not traditionally or culturally considered to be one. Is it part of the mainland? Is it an island? It's a true edge case!)
So:
• Metropolitan Denmark: 43,100 km².
• Jutland (mainland only): 20,200 km².
• North Jutlandic Island: 4,700 km².
Meaning that:
• If you include NJI as mainland, then mainland = 24,900 km² = 58% of Denmark.
• If you consider NJI an island, then mainland = 20,200 km² = 47% of Denmark.
Yeah, nice quiz, this one made me think :) This continents v islands thing, I do wonder a bit about that, which gets Qatar in but Bahrain out; Andorra in but Ireland out (plus your deal about what to do with Denmark), but I guess you have to draw the line somewhere otherwise every small island country becomes an answer.
Another tough call is Malaysia. Peninsular Malaysia is no more than 140 km from the sea, but it only makes up 40% of the country, the rest of which is not on the mainland.
Why not simply "no island countries"? It's maybe unfair to ask people to know what % of a country is on the continental mainland. Like I would've guessed about 50% for Malaysia, but why am I having to think about that during the quiz? There aren't that many countries with a small bit on the mainland and a lot on islands, are there?
I thought it was a great quiz by the way, thanks a lot!
I'd like to further the Denmark discussion. In almost no quizzes does Greenland figure in, unless there's the notation about including overseas territories.
including Greenland would disqualify it on two counts (maximum distance and more than 50% being islands). Without Greenland (and the Faroe islands) it looks like the maximum distance is about 50km and about 30% of the area is island based.
> I'm all for [...] having it as a pre-filled answer
I like this. Because: see my above comment about the North Jutlandic Island. (@interopia perhaps you have already looked into this and are aware of the awkwardness surrounding that island, in which case this part is mostly for the benefit of others reading this comment.)
There's an island that used to be part of the mainland. Then in 1825 a storm severed it and it has been an island since then. But culturally and historically it is not considered an island (the Danes don't even really have a name for it).
But: the "island" is big enough that whether you consider it an island or not will change the classification of Metropolitan (i.e.: non-Greenland or Faroes, etc.) Denmark to be on either side of the 50% mainland tipping point. I think having it pre-filled is perhaps the best solution.
You could argue that it is more than 200 km from the northeast corner of the country to the coast, depending on where you define the border between the Geba River and the Atlantic Ocean to be. It is close, though.
Not bad. I guess it must be around 250km for Belgium (a bit less if you count the Scheldt estuary as the sea, and I bet you do to get 185km for the Netherlands). It must be close for Italy too, but I guess some places in the North are a bit farther than 200km.
Me too. My own fault for not carefully reading the instructions, but... jeez. I was wondering why almost none of my answers (except four) were being accepted, and wondering what landlocked countries I could have possibly missed that were closer to the ocean!
Then with 30 seconds to go, I re-read the instructions and understood what was being asked for. OOPS!!!
Argh, I failed to read the instructions properly. I thought it was only countries that were near a coast but didn't have one, but that might make another interesting quiz.
I got them all with 6 seconds to spare. My last two were San Marino and Vatican City. Some of these are tricky because they aren't coastal. This quiz is a great geographic brain teaser!
What constitutes "ocean"? Moldova is less than 100 km from the Black Sea and Monaco is on the Mediterranean Sea, nowhere near the "ocean" side of France.
Roughly, by my calculations:
Jutland peninsula area (only Denmark's part): 9,200 sq miles
Islands area (not including overseas territories): 7,300 sq miles
Jutland includes the North Jutlandic Island, which is... maybe an island?
(Short version: it didn't use to be, but has been since a storm in 1825, but is not traditionally or culturally considered to be one. Is it part of the mainland? Is it an island? It's a true edge case!)
So:
• Metropolitan Denmark: 43,100 km².
• Jutland (mainland only): 20,200 km².
• North Jutlandic Island: 4,700 km².
Meaning that:
• If you include NJI as mainland, then mainland = 24,900 km² = 58% of Denmark.
• If you consider NJI an island, then mainland = 20,200 km² = 47% of Denmark.
It's... awkward.
I thought it was a great quiz by the way, thanks a lot!
What's being questioned is why there's a constraint that leaves out island countries in the first place.
- entirely within 200 km of the coast
- landlocked
And that they are:
Andorra
San Marino
Swazilan
Vatican City
I like this. Because: see my above comment about the North Jutlandic Island. (@interopia perhaps you have already looked into this and are aware of the awkwardness surrounding that island, in which case this part is mostly for the benefit of others reading this comment.)
There's an island that used to be part of the mainland. Then in 1825 a storm severed it and it has been an island since then. But culturally and historically it is not considered an island (the Danes don't even really have a name for it).
But: the "island" is big enough that whether you consider it an island or not will change the classification of Metropolitan (i.e.: non-Greenland or Faroes, etc.) Denmark to be on either side of the 50% mainland tipping point. I think having it pre-filled is perhaps the best solution.
Then with 30 seconds to go, I re-read the instructions and understood what was being asked for. OOPS!!!
Otherwise a lot of those countries don't qualify if you want to use the term "ocean".