The Syrian regime was not toppled in the Arab Spring. Bashar al-Assad has been president of Syria since 2000, despite the civil war that still continues today after starting around the time of the Arab Spring.
The criteria was "whose government was toppled OR thrown into civil war". Syria's civil war is of course still happening today so it would work on here.
The only reason Bahrain didn't erupt into civil war at around the same time as Syria did is that it is a tiny island easily controlled. But there were many protests there ongoing for years and many violent crackdowns on said protests. Given the small area of the island and support from the AlSauds the Khalifa family easily maintained dominance. But I'm not sure if it's really such a clear distinction. Where on the sliding scale of violence and counter violence does a country slip from civil unrest into civil war? Other countries in turmoil since the Tunisian revolution include Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Oman, Sudan, Nigeria, Algeria, Israel, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, to varying degrees. And maybe others. All have gone through events that have been linked, some more directly than others, to the events of the "Arab Spring," and the instability and push for democracy that came about in part due to the toppling of Hussein.
It depends. If you talk to the people who were there or lived there or if you watch the news. And I met a lot of people, so I made my own conclusion who is lying.
Pork, you're calling Hussein a democratically elected leader? And implying that somehow the government set up after him was less democratic? You know that these Arab spring movements were in large part inspired by the toppling of Hussein which nurtured a popular push toward democracy in these other countries like the one that emerged in Iraq, right? And.. you're blaming Obama for invading Iraq 5 years before he was elected president?
Is this trolling or genuine ignorance? it's hard to tell one from the other in some cases.
You're really going to let comments like Ferbin's (who rarely has anything productive to say and spends most of his time spouting anti-American BS, when he's not directly attacking other users for disagreements on another quiz 2 years ago), which here is literally a full-on ad hominem personal attack, stand... but not allow the person being attacked to respond? God, the moderation here, FFS...
Ferbin: again, more briefly and less well articulated this time, your comment = projection, insecurity, and likely inaccuracy. And when you, or others, leave 50 comments, 45 of which are completely disconnected from reality but meant earnestly, and 5 of which are completely disconnected from reality but meant jokingly, everyone will rightly be challenged to discern one from the other.
Every country deserve a functioning democracy. However, if the Arab Spring has taught us one thing, it is that any miscalculated push for democracy will lead to instability and turmoil. Were those Arab countries ready for a democratic government?
Tunisia has been the most stable of the countries affected but they haven't progressed much. Egypt went from secular military strongman to democratically elected Islamist and back to secular military strongman. They lost a lot of lives and capital and are basically back where they started.
Lebanon and Iraq both have democratically elected leaders. The Egyptian government since 2012 has also been semi-democratic, though there's some probably credible concern that el-Sisi is going to turn into another immovable dictator like Mubarak before him.
I spent a few weeks travelling around Tunisia, and every single person without fail told me that they think the revolution was a bad thing, mainly because their economy collapsed and has been going downhill ever since. They're also by far the most liberal/secular country in North Africa (and arguably the entire Arab world) both culturally and legally.
Democracy is dangerous, easily corrupted, difficult to achieve and harder to maintain. To function well it depends on many different things that most countries simply don't have (rule of law and a lack of corruption, a free and independent press, an educated and informed electorate, a functioning and robust judiciary, a belief in the importance of tolerance/diversity and constitutional protections for minorities, et cetera). It wouldn't have mattered how these countries got to democracy it still would cause problems if they didn't have these things, and none of them do.
What is the context of the "Arab Spring?" The recent regime changes in Algeria and Sudan could be because of the Arab Spring, no? Riots have been going on since the beginning of the Arab Spring, anyways.
I guess since it started in December they didn't mean the actual spring time and could be considered ongoing, but I think generally speaking since Egypt has gone back to de facto dictatorship, Assad has all but won the Syrian civil war, popular movements in other countries have been suppressed, and the rate at which they occur has dwindled to almost nothing... most would probably consider the Arab Spring to be over.
Ironically, only 79 percent wrote Tunisia despite the fact that the Arab Spring started in Tunisia. It seems like many don't know much about the Arab spring and how it started.
Now that we're over a decade removed from the Arab Spring, it's hard to find any positives. Syria, Yemen, Libya all descended into a civil war; all of them have an ongoing civil war (Libya's had at least two). Egypt got rid of a dictator to eventually have an even worse dictator running the show. It's one of those historical events where everyone loses.
I have friends in Libya. They said things were better, more hopeful, for a while. But since then they've definitely gotten a lot worse.
Thanks Obama!
Is this trolling or genuine ignorance? it's hard to tell one from the other in some cases.
Ferbin: again, more briefly and less well articulated this time, your comment = projection, insecurity, and likely inaccuracy. And when you, or others, leave 50 comments, 45 of which are completely disconnected from reality but meant earnestly, and 5 of which are completely disconnected from reality but meant jokingly, everyone will rightly be challenged to discern one from the other.
On the other hand, they're still as religious, conservative, sexist and homophobic as before.