Disagree! With the exception of Gizmo, the mogwai in the movies were jerks who manipulated things specifically so that they'd get turned into gremlins.
he actually isn't a villain, he is portrayed to be equally affected by the patriarchy and anyone who came out of that movie thinking ken was supposed to be the villain is wrong and lacks media literacy.
So a gang leader who murders, steals, and assaults women isn’t a villain? I mean, if we take away people who are villainous because of psychopathy and societal causes, what’s left? How many characters just choose to be evil for no reason?
the movie is not about forgiveness, it is about choice. Alex was 'good' at the end because he had no choice. to follow his natural impulses would have caused him terrible pain. is that really being 'good' if you have no choice in the matter?
Hard to say. I haven’t read it, but I’ve been told that the novel has him breaking Ludovico and choosing a better life. Maybe the movie implies he’ll change, too.
The American version of the novel was missing chapter 21, the final chapter. It was added to UK prints. The American version matches closer to Kubrick's interpretation. The UK version shows Alex giving up his sociopathic tendencies by his own free will.
Doesn't matter if he's a villain or not by the end of the movie, since he actually is a villain for most of it. So the label still applies. Would you say Vader is not a villain cause he redeems himself at the end of Ep 6?
The movie was ultimately about anarchotyranny in a dystopian future. The "reform" part is touching on the subject of allowing violent criminals the time and leniency to change their ways while the rest of society is burdened by the chaos. The conditioning he went through was only temporary enough to get him back on the streets.
I was wondering if being the protagonist is at odds with being a villain. I guess they shouldn't be mutually exclusive, but the common trope is that the villain is the antagonist.
Alex is unambiguously a villain. Travis Bickle I would agree with, he's very disturbed and decidedly not a hero despite saving Iris, but definitely not a traditional villain. But I don't know how you could watch A Clockwork Orange and come away thinking Alex is anything but villainous.
You see, if you were actually paying attention you would've known that Ken was actually the hero of the Barbie movie and Barbie was the villain. Ugh, media literacy is at an all time low these days. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Neither Travis Bickle, Jack Torrance, Patrick Bateman, Regan (I guess unless it's the devil in that pic), Alex DeLarge, or, arguably, Ken are villains.
That's not to say their characters aren't bad people (or dolls). But they aren't the villain, and certainly not the antagonist, of those stories.
Villain: a character whose evil actions are important to the plot.
A villain doesn’t have to be the antagonist. A villain in a story just has to do bad things. Like chasing his family around with an axe, trying to assassinate a politician, chasing people with an axe while listening to Huey Lewis, purposely forcing a societal group to become submissive (even if it was in retaliation for previous submissiveness), or drinking milk as the leader of a gang.
It woulda been cool to have a picture of the Overlook Hotel as the "villain" of the Shining, but I suppose that's more something from the book, in the movie Jack is kinda wacko from the start.
American Psycho didn't have a villain. It just had soulless mental patients being jerks to everyone. Most people with any understanding of the movie have reached the conclusion that Bateman never actually killed anyone, he was just devolving from being an ass to being completely insane.
Also, Ken wasn't the villain in Barbie, the Mattel executives were.
(And no, accepting that fact doesn't make you "woke" - or "one of them", as your reasoning probably goes-)
Oh and by the way he wasn't a murderer, he only killed one woman by accident.
And i believe the last line of the Clockwork orange was "they cured me" cause he was just cured
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainProtagonist
That's not to say their characters aren't bad people (or dolls). But they aren't the villain, and certainly not the antagonist, of those stories.
A villain doesn’t have to be the antagonist. A villain in a story just has to do bad things. Like chasing his family around with an axe, trying to assassinate a politician, chasing people with an axe while listening to Huey Lewis, purposely forcing a societal group to become submissive (even if it was in retaliation for previous submissiveness), or drinking milk as the leader of a gang.
>work a menial job to support yourself in a dire setting
>murder pedophile pimp to free young girl
>get called the villain
Also, Ken wasn't the villain in Barbie, the Mattel executives were.