I don't get the forced country quizzes. Some, like the American one, are full of information. If the quizzes are going to be so bare bone why make them? There is plenty of information to be added, like how the French tricked the Cameroonians into shooting up the American embassy or the Anglophone Crisis or the Bakassi conflict or Paul Biya.
It's not like they don't get the answers. Besides, we literally just featured every subdivision of Asia on a map, I don't think that is exactly newbie (or anyone) material.
There are quizzes for beginner and quizzes for advanced jetpunkers (like the Asian one). And even if they get the answer, there has to be a certain amount of direct reward at the beginning, to get people get hooked on the side.
This quiz is not for "newbies". The average person in the world would be lucky to guess more than 3. Recalibrate your expectations.
I think this is an example of a "purity spiral" that reduces the size of the audience by alienating outlying members.
It's the same thing that happened when I was an engineering student at university. The first test would come out and 30% of people would get C's or lower. They would drop the class. The next test would come out and a new cohort would get C's and drop, etc... The result was a distilled "pure" batch of engineers who employers like Microsoft could hire without worry.
That's not what we are going for on JetPunk. We are trying to grow the audience, not shrink it.
Thank you, you have done well in this. I don't even remember how or when I stumbled onto Jetpunk, but it has been years, and it all started with Countries of the World. I think my first time I might have gotten 35 or so. And I discovered an obsession with learning geography.
Now, years later, I manage a social media team that livestreams every week, and it feels like Jetpunk has all been some kind of training! Especially when I can announce, "We have someone watching in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines!" and knowing where to locate it on a map so I can stick a pin in it, while my team just blinks at me or furrows their eyebrows.
I guess I just wanted to say thank you to Jetpunk for helping me discover a passion I didn't know I had. Your labor of love that goes into all of the quizzes is very much appreciated.
I agree with you KanzazKyote. They’re fun to do if they are well made and filled with interesting facts, but the last two about Cameroon and Ivory Coast are really dull with only 12-13 basic questions...
They are not reports or papers. It is not about giving the most interesting facts about a country. It is no fun if you get 0 answers correct, the argument "but you get the answers afterwards anyway" does not have any value. That would just basically make it a one sided presentation.
A few interesting facts with a higher difficulty level is fine, it is nice to learn a few interesting things (like someone else on another quiz suggested, something about the oldest/biggest tree in the world, forgot the country, pretty sure it was in africa) but very obscure, uninteresting historical facts, that noone is gonna get (or remember afterwards) is not gonna make the quiz better.
It should either be gettable (though that does not mean a 100%, currency is gettable, but I definitely won't get them all), interesting, or a good fact to learn (like the lake chad, embarissingly I had no idea)
Not obscure boring forgettable facts just because they happen to be true (btw speaking in gene
I think it is just about giving the most interesting facts about countries!! Otherwise where’s the fun? I don’t think people are willing to take any quiz with dull answers. It is not about « getting as many answers as possible », but rather the « learning new interesting facts about countries I’ve just known the name so far. Wow now I’m more enlightened! »
I’m not saying the quizzes should be impossible, sure the capital city, currency, bordering countries... etc are necessary basics, but it wouldn’t hurt to add for example that the sultan of Brunei hired M. Jackson to do a concert there without attending it himself!
I mean come on. Only 12 questions about a rich country such as Cameroon? You could easily add more answers like balafon, Adamoua, some ethnic groups, Samuel Eto’o... etc.
This reminds me of something I've wondered about whenever I make quizzes about the U.S. Presidents. Do I make them super easy so that everybody can get a good score or do I fill them with information that only the most hardcore President buffs would answer?
I feel that if I did either approach they wouldn't make for very entertaining quizzes, so I try to balance out the difficulties as much as I can. But sometimes, they don't always play out depending on what the quiz topic is. For example, my quiz on James K. Polk ended up with a lot of the answers being states because he spent much of his time in office acquiring more land for the country.
Due to some peculiar circumstances I once attended a wedding in Cameroon - that was definitely a memorable trip, so this quiz is special for me. Happy to get all the answers.
If Quizmaster ever looks for trivia to expand the quiz, maybe add one about a limnic eruption? Cameroon is one of only two countries where one was recorded (the other being DR Congo). And Paul Biya's long reign might be worth a question. Or Samuel Eto'o. But those are just suggestions, I like the quiz as it is.
Regarding the complaints about this quiz being too short, where are the questions asking for currency, as well as all of the bordering coutries? The previous country quizzes include both of those questions, and this one feels incomplete without them.
I think this is an example of a "purity spiral" that reduces the size of the audience by alienating outlying members.
It's the same thing that happened when I was an engineering student at university. The first test would come out and 30% of people would get C's or lower. They would drop the class. The next test would come out and a new cohort would get C's and drop, etc... The result was a distilled "pure" batch of engineers who employers like Microsoft could hire without worry.
That's not what we are going for on JetPunk. We are trying to grow the audience, not shrink it.
Now, years later, I manage a social media team that livestreams every week, and it feels like Jetpunk has all been some kind of training! Especially when I can announce, "We have someone watching in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines!" and knowing where to locate it on a map so I can stick a pin in it, while my team just blinks at me or furrows their eyebrows.
I guess I just wanted to say thank you to Jetpunk for helping me discover a passion I didn't know I had. Your labor of love that goes into all of the quizzes is very much appreciated.
A few interesting facts with a higher difficulty level is fine, it is nice to learn a few interesting things (like someone else on another quiz suggested, something about the oldest/biggest tree in the world, forgot the country, pretty sure it was in africa) but very obscure, uninteresting historical facts, that noone is gonna get (or remember afterwards) is not gonna make the quiz better.
It should either be gettable (though that does not mean a 100%, currency is gettable, but I definitely won't get them all), interesting, or a good fact to learn (like the lake chad, embarissingly I had no idea)
Not obscure boring forgettable facts just because they happen to be true (btw speaking in gene
I’m not saying the quizzes should be impossible, sure the capital city, currency, bordering countries... etc are necessary basics, but it wouldn’t hurt to add for example that the sultan of Brunei hired M. Jackson to do a concert there without attending it himself!
I mean come on. Only 12 questions about a rich country such as Cameroon? You could easily add more answers like balafon, Adamoua, some ethnic groups, Samuel Eto’o... etc.
I feel that if I did either approach they wouldn't make for very entertaining quizzes, so I try to balance out the difficulties as much as I can. But sometimes, they don't always play out depending on what the quiz topic is. For example, my quiz on James K. Polk ended up with a lot of the answers being states because he spent much of his time in office acquiring more land for the country.
Very sneaky QM lol
If Quizmaster ever looks for trivia to expand the quiz, maybe add one about a limnic eruption? Cameroon is one of only two countries where one was recorded (the other being DR Congo). And Paul Biya's long reign might be worth a question. Or Samuel Eto'o. But those are just suggestions, I like the quiz as it is.