yes, but that's not the question - the instructions say "name the modern day countries which used to be part of Yugoslavia" - Kosovo clearly used to be part of Yugoslavia
It's recognised by a majority of UN states and all the former Yugos except (unsurprisingly) Serbia. It's as much a separate state as Taiwan at this point.
1. Title of quiz is Yugoslavian States Today. Regardless of the directions, the quiz title implies that we are searching for the former Yugoslavian states as they are called today. Kosovo should not be counted by this understanding. 2. @KoljiVriVoda You enjoy censorship because someone may get offended? This line of thinking is unhelpful. In a free society every idea has the right to be discussed regardless of how painful or how many bigoted remarks follow. Stupid people exist everywhere and the internet gives them a voice, censorship won't stop it.
That's not at all what it implies. "State" is another word for "country". The modern countries that used to make up Yugoslavia could accurately be called "former Yugoslavian states". That does not mean they used to be states (in the American sense).
Kosovo is considered a sovereign country in pretty much every jetpunk quiz... I have yet to see one that does not include it. The USA and several other countries do not recognize Taiwan, but for some reason people on this site never argue about that and I don't know why
I have seen many arguments about Taiwan's independence on Jetpunk- Regardless, even if creators on this site recognise Kosovo as independent from Serbia, this absurdity was never even THOUGHT about during the golden times of Yugo. Therefore, it's appearance in this quiz is questionable and to many unnecessary.
@LongHistory3 By that logic 99% of people in the Americas should go back to Europe, Africa and Asia; Arabs should leave North Africa, Russians should leave Siberia, the English should leave the British Isles and ... Serbs should leave Serbia as it was once habited by other peoples.
It will not. Some of us saw that hell with our own eyes and I know how those empty words what is something or what is not can bring terror. It is just painfull.
No, it's clearly not just "facts." If it's about international recognition, Palestine would qualify as a "country" on this site. If it's about de facto independence, Somaliland would qualify. There are clearly political decisions being made.
I spoke to an older lady (maybe in her 60s or 70s) on an airplane. She still considered herself "Yugoslavian," and she talked about how much better things had been under Tito. There was a lot of sadness and pain when talking about how everything fell apart, and all of the violence and hatred. She talked about how her family had fled (eventually to Canada). I've also spoken to Canadian veterans who served as peacekeepers in Kosovo, and they all painted a bleak picture. Not having been there myself, and being too young to remember much about it, of course I have no idea what it was really like, but it's always tragic when people fracture apart as enemies, instead of staying together as countrymen.
Is there a chance that you could order these according to alphabetical order, it would make working out what I missed out a bit easier. Apart from that a great quiz, thanks
Ekhem, Kosovo is not a country, it's a part of Serbia. If you count Kosovo as country, you have to accept Lakotah, Transnistria, Southern Ossetia and Abkhazia as countries too.
they may not officially recognize it but they literally vow to protect it in the event of a Chinese invasion. Also I'm pretty sure jetpunk goes off border control, so taiwan and kosovo are recognized, but other "countries" like western sahara or the countries the first guy listed aren't recognized. Also the average American that knows about the taiwan-china situation would most likely say taiwan is independent, some going as far as to (wrongfully) say it is the real china.
Though they don't want to admit it publicly, it seems like the Serbians have tacitly admitted Kosovo is an independent country. For example, when I tried to drive from Moldova to Transnistria, there was no Moldovan customs checkpoint or border at all. There was a Transnistrian checkpoint, but not a Moldovan one. Moldova treats Transnistria as if it is still part of Moldova.
On the other hand, when I tried to drive from Serbia to Kosovo, I was stopped by Serbian customs, they acted as if I was leaving the country, and without any legal grounds for doing so they stole my car.
If Serbia was in Yugoslavia and Kosovo was a part of Serbia, then it would be extremely bizarre if Kosovo wasn't also a part of Yugoslavia. It's like saying Phoenix is a part of Arizona but not a part of the USA.
Got them all with 0:31 remaining at 6:17:46 PM on February 19, 2019. North Macedonia was the last country I remembered and typed in. A quick, satisfyingly simple quiz for those who know which countries are in the Balkans.
This is a controversial topic, and if you want to add Kosovo, you should at least put * next to it. Yes, a lot of western countries recongize it, but Kosovo is DE JURE not a sovereign country.
In what way is it "DE IURE" not an independent country? I'm genuinely curious. It has a functioning government, international borders that it enforces, it has recognition by many of its neighbours and most of the world's countries and institutions. I get that some people don't want Kosovo to be an independent country, but that's a very different thing from saying that it isn't right now.
Well, all of the things you mentioned are the reasons it is "de facto" a country, as it has what it needs to have for a sovereign country. But, to be a "de jure" independent country, it has to be recognized by the UN. Kosovo's status is pretty much the same as Taiwan. Both function as independent countries, just lack of recognition.
And here on Jetpunk, we deal with facts.
Bosnia doesn't recognize Kosovo
On the other hand, when I tried to drive from Serbia to Kosovo, I was stopped by Serbian customs, they acted as if I was leaving the country, and without any legal grounds for doing so they stole my car.
Republic of Kosovo was never part of Yugoslavia, Kosovo was an autonomous region in Serbia, as it was 'till 2008, and as it almost is today.
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