Thanks. According to GlobalFirepower, Malaysia is #46 in the world... so they don't make the top 30. If I were to update this list then Sweden would be out of the top 30 and the United Arab Emirates would be on, but that's the only change from the last two months.
and, in case it wasn't clear from the title of the quiz.. this isn't at all about the quality of these airforces it is strictly based on the number of military aircraft they have. Malaysia is reported as having 244 military aircraft, not enough to make the top 30.
Updated May 2013! Major changes include Sweden decommissioning or selling more than half of its total aircraft, thus dropping them off the list, and China DOUBLING their total aircraft, allowing them to take the #2 spot from Russia.
Updated again to include the latest data. Nothing Earth-shattering. The same trends of the last several years have continued: the increasing irrelevance of Europe as virtually every European country has fallen, the rise of pretty much everywhere else especially Asia, and continuing American dominance. Virtually no change in order at the top of the list, only minor shuffling at the bottom. Somehow Ukraine has lost 90% of its aircraft, sending it well out of the top 30 and making room for Australia. Meanwhile Indonesia has just barely overtaken Vietnam. Those were the only two changes in roster of the top 30.
Update June 2014: GFP really shook up their rankings. Seems they are counting aircraft differently now, and probably not counting certain types that they were before considering most of the numbers have gotten smaller. China and the US for example each lost 2k planes a piece. Other changes include France, Egypt, Turkey, South Korea and Japan all moving way up; North Korea and Iran moving way down; and Mexico and Libya shuffling clear off the bottom of the list making room for Canada and Algeria.
I could but 1) I'm too lazy to look up the acronyms for all 30 of these countries and then put them all in as type-ins, and if I didn't do that it would make the quiz inconsistent. and 2) the directions clearly ask you to name the country, not the air force of that country. If it was just "Largest Air Forces" that would make more sense, but then the numbers would be inaccurate as that 13k figure is all branches combined. Or "Military Branches with the Most Combat Aircraft." If the latter- then you could have the USAF, USMC, USN, and USA all on this quiz as every branch of the US military has more than 417 aircraft in its inventory.
Greece is next to Turkey: a country 7 times its size, with 8 times its population and 10 times its economy, a massive military, led by a dictator with expansionist views. And they've been enemies for the last millennium or so.
Do you mean the last century or so? Greece wasn't even a country more than 200 years ago. At the time both the territory that is currently Greece and the territory that is currently Turkey were part of the Ottoman Empire. They've pretty much hated each other ever since bother countries came into existence, but not before. Unless you're trying to conflate Greece with Sparta and Turkey with Troy or something truly bizarre like that. :D But those were not the same people. Nationalist creation myths are always a lie.
@kalbahamut: Greeks and Turks didn't appear out of nowhere when the respective states were created, and indeed conflict between those nations started around 1000 years ago, when Turkish tribes started invading Byzantine lands, pillaging, slaughtering and forcefully converting to Islam the Christian, mostly Greek-speaking population. The Ottomans continued these practices during their conquest and later continuously oppressed the Christian population throughout the existence of the Ottoman Empire. The separation between the Christians and the Muslim conquerors/converts in Greece and Asia Minor at the time essentially constitutes the definition of the modern-day Greek and Turkish nations.
This is a false but commonly believed lie. Nationalism is a lie. There are not distinct, discrete, cogent groups of people connected by common heritage, language, religion, genetics, etc that have existed in the same arrangements for thousands of years. This is part of the nationalist fantasy. While there were "Turkic" people in Central Asia that invaded Anatolia, speaking languages related to modern Turkish, those are not the same people who live in Turkey today. And while there were "Greeks" in the Ottoman and Byzantine Empire, the label did not mean the same thing at those times. Turks and Greeks did indeed appear out of nowhere, at around the same time, right around the middle of the 18th century- the same time that Macedonians, Bulgarians, Germans, Italians, Russians, Chinese, etc. as we conceive of them today also appeared.
"Greek speaking" people of the Byzantine Empire were not Greeks, the way you're using the word, any more than Jamaicans are English, or Mexicans are Spaniards. I know that this goes against the nationalist myth of Greece, and because nationalism as an idea is so deeply ingrained and commonly accepted today, I also know that this seems counter-intuitive.
What defines a nation then, statehood? That is an absurd notion, and the comparison with colonialism is obviously flawed. Even the Byzantine Empire was, in fact, made up of Greeks, Armenians, Slavs etc. ruled by an aristocratic elite. Their culture, language, religion and feeling of unity at the time of these nations' respective independence actually had more in common with that of those times than with modern, westernized society. This has nothing to do with the feeling of superiority or vengefulness that nationalism draws from the past, and whose flames are still fanned by national and international interests, resulting, among other things, in the numbers on this quiz. It is merely a historical fact.
No. A nation itself is an absurd notion. The idea that "Greeks" today are the same people as the "Greek"-speaking people of the Byzantine Empire, or the "Greeks" of ancient Athens, that's absurd. The whole concept of nationalism is a lie built on a fallacious and tribalistic concept of how history works. AND, this concept did not exist prior to the 18th century when the concept of nationalism was invented. THIS is when some subjects of the Ottoman Empire decided, hey, all of these many different disparate people around the empire who speak a language basically the same as Greek, and go to Greek Orthodox Christian churches, they are all the same people, and they have all descended from Alexander the Great and the people of ancient Greece, and they all share the same history and culture and genetics, and they should come together and form their own country where they will be self-ruled on land that belongs to them by genetic birthright because of some ancient lineage.
This was a completely new concept in the 18th century, and it's completely BS. The same concept inspired Bismarck to unite all the "German" people, and Garibaldi to unite "Italy", and spelled doom for the multi-ethnic Ottomans. But it is based on fantasy, not reality. So... yes... these nations did not spring in to being until they were imagined to have existed. They did not exist prior to that inherently. Nationalism is a social construct. We are all the same people. We are all the same race. Tribalism is evil in addition to being simply wrong.
My grandfather single-handedly downed 8 German planes killing 23 Nazi crewman in just one day during the Battle of Britain. They say he was the worst mechanic in the history of the Luftwaffe.
is the 2nd largest air force in the world
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According to the source Italy has now overtaken the UK and Thailand has overtaken Greece.
China is on their doorstep and could invade any time, so that's why they have a big air force despite being a small country.