Serbia Country Quiz

It's true for Princip question. It belongs to Bosnia and Herzegovina. Also, Tesla has nothing to do with Serbia, but it is difficult to explain to people who are not from the territory of the former Yugoslavia. He is a Serb, born in Austria, on the territory of today's Croatia. Serbs do not live only in Serbia.

"Tesla has nothing to do with Serbia" "He is a Serb" yup works great

You can argue all you want who has dibs on him, but "nothing to do with it" is well, there are lots of words what to call that.

He has almost nothing to do with Serbia. He was born in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, in what is today Croatia, then moved to the United States and became an American citizen. After the dissolution of Austria-Hungary, American was the only citizenship left to him. 63 years after his death, the country of Serbia achieved independence.

So... what does he have to do with Serbia? Other than being printed on some of their currency. I know his parents were ethnic Serbs but still. It's a little weird. Not unprecedented. But weird. Overall I'd say Tesla has less to do with Serbia than Alexander the Great has to do with Skopje. But they still have statues of Alexander up all over the latter. So, whatever...

jovan: "Tesla was in Belgrade" - yeah, for about 36 hours. I've had longer layovers.

It's a lie that modern ethnicities somehow are the same as ancient ethnicities. Part of the nationalist fallacy. And ridiculous in my opinion that ethno-nation-states try to lay claim to everyone in the past that they believe were part of their mythic origin. It's all bogus. This goes for Serbia, and Macedonia, and Greece, too. And it would go for the US, too, except the US doesn't do that since it is not an ethno-state. But they have their own silly and spurious creation myths.

You didn't clear up anything for me and I wasn't unfamiliar with any of these subjects. But, thanks.

I don't know how many times you plan to repeat the same story... Yes, I get it, you had some problems in Serbia, but pointing that out all the times when someone mentions Serbia, with nothing but disparagement for the whole country and its people, makes you seem a bit... biased, don't you think?

Maybe it does. I don't know, isn't that kind of like saying the food critic who gave your restaurant a terrible review is biased because when he went to eat there he was served horrible food? Fix your country and people won't have such negative experiences going there and feel the need to repeat them, maybe?

I am sure that an inconvenient experience is possible in absolutely every country in the world. I have some of the best and the worst of travel memories from Singapore, for example, but I would never draw some definite conclusions from the 5 days I've spent there. And, as for your comparison, people aren't meals, that's just insulting. People are people. You obviously don't see the difference. In a certain country, there are millions of individuals, yet you've made your opinion on all of them based on a few of them. That is so inherently wrong I can't stress that enough. In any case, I don't want to argue, if you ever wish to come to Serbia again and to see another side of the coin, please contact me, I promise to you I will do my best to make your stay much more pleasant than the previous one. Believe me, there is much more in Serbia and Serbs than your unpleasant experience showed you. Greetings.

I wasn't comparing people to meals. and I had a lot of negative experiences there not just the car thing; but the car thing was something that will scar me for life. I never intend to return to Serbia- many other places I would rather visit for the first time or return to- but thanks for the offer. Happy to show you around Washington DC as well.

Ok, as you can guess, I have some prejudice against the US - your government did bomb my country, as you may know (and, judging by some of your previous comments, strongly support). But let's not get into politics, the point is that, regardless to that, if an opportunity occurs, you shouldn't be surprised if I contact you some day, since I won't fall into the trap of confusing the actions of several people, even if they represent the government of your country, and the nation as a whole. Greetings and I hope you will change your mind and come to Serbia again some day. My offer remains the same.

I think something to always be aware of is that the government and the people are not the same. Serbia's government may have be awful before, and still is pretty bad, but that doesn't mean the entire country is a horrible place. At least give Serbia another chance; I feel the country has improved a lot over the past decades as the government goes and animosity between Serbians and other countries has also decreased. I would personally love to go to Serbia at some point in my life.

Stupid non-sequitor. By the way, look up the demographic history of Kosovo. It's the Serbs that have been ethnically cleansed, slowly, over time. But this term is largely a buzz word.

it's not a buzz word to those getting dumped in mass graves.

One day, when California or New Mexico try to secede, because there might be "sui generis" for the majority Latino population, I wonder what side you will be on. Surely you wouldn't try to use force to preserve the sovereignty of the United States? The moment there are any casualties in dealing with separatists, I will ask you: Are you in favor of ethnic cleansing?

I would be on the side that was not ethnic cleansing. I'm not a patriot or a nationalist. Casualties dealing with separatists are *not* the same thing, though. If Texas some day declares independence from the United States, I would hope they do so legally and peacefully, and with the near unanimous consent of the people in the state (I am generally opposed to Balkanization because I think it leads to weaker less effective governments, greater competition for and less efficient use of resources, and the repression of minorities)... but if that were to occur and those conditions were met, then fine, let them go. More power to them.

If violence broke out, I might be rooting for unity, but if the Proud Boys or the Boogaloo movement assembled militias of "true Americans" and went in to El Paso where they were slaughtering Mexican-Americans and dumping them into mass graves... I would be on the side of the Mexican-Americans in that situation.

Further, if the federal government got involved with trying to kill all of the brown people in Texas, and NATO or, hell, even the Warsaw Pact decided to intervene and bomb the federal troops committing these atrocities, I'd be rooting against the American government in that situation, too. I can see Trump ordering something like that. He's just as bad as Milošević, just currently with less power.

I love that you never miss an opportunity to rag on Serbia. One day you must tell us the whole ordeal with this car you had stolen there.

If not for my dislike of wasted opportunities maybe I wouldn't mind so much having a few years of my life trashed by shamelessly corrupt and bigoted bureaucrats. Astute of you to notice.

You are just awful with non-sequitors. I mention identity, you start talking about the state. And why are you picking and choosing segments of his life? For most of his adult life, his prime identity was Yugoslav and that existed well before the creation of Yugoslavia (indeed it necessitated the latter). Less bogus than how other nationalities have formed, like Belgian, Russian or Swiss. South Slavs naturally banded together to break free from a powerful empire, an intermediate step to the national identities of the present. Nationalism is natural and healthy. Whoops, I guess now I am in favor of "ethnic cleansing."

I don't know what your position on ethnic cleansing is but calling nationalism natural is delusional as the concept was an artificial creation of the 19th century and this is documented historical fact. You also seem deluded in general during this response. I was mostly agreeing with you above.... just adding additional information... yeesh...