Major non-NATO U.S. Allies

Some of these you just assume are already members. It baffles me to see them as allies only

He means he expected them to be full NATO members by now.

Got everything except Thailand but the time limit was pretty generous. Most were easy to guess... took me a while to get Argentina.

I have no idea what the point of this "designation" is. Does anybody know? If a war breaks out, the Americans will wade in if they think it's in their interest, and stay away if it is not.

I'm a little surprised that Singapore is not on here.

It's a city state, so I'm not super surprised.

The only real surprise to me was Morrocco.

Even though it's a city state, they have large and modern military in comparison to their size.

What about the baguette eaters?

Idk, they did sacrifice a lot for the Americans, successfully screwing up their country for a century

I'm very surprised there are ANY Muslim countries besides Afghanistan here. Especially those against Israel (Egypt and Jordan). Yet no European countries which are more likely to become NATO members.

The governments of Jordan and Egypt are not anti-Israel, as they both have peace treaties and they are not hostile towards each other.

A big part of why Jordan and Egypt are on this list is precisely because of those treaties they signed with Israel.

Agreed. I don't really understand how Pakistan is considered an ally at this point...

Especially, more than their activities in support of terrorists, because of their clear alliance with China. At this point in time, whether we acknowledge it or not, the world is most divided between those aligned with China and those aligned with the United States. Muslim terrorists, while not good, are only a distraction.

NATO existence has no point.

yes it does and we've explained it to you before. You just don't like it because you are stuck on the wrong side of 1999.

Do you still feel this way?

I think they'll be removing Afghanistan from the list any minute now (Aug 15, 2021).

From the list or from the map? :)

They're certainly not allies with the new administration

The same thing most likely would have happened even if the US pulled out in 2031, 2041, 2051, or 2061. The US had been there for 20 years and could not stay forever. It is not good that the Afghani government fell so quickly, but at some point the US had to pull the plug. Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires for a reason.

I meant the new administration in Afghanistan (and by 'they' I meant the U.S.) 😅

I wonder how many of these have a collective security agreement equivalent to NATO's article 5. I know ANZUS does and I'd assume Japan does too, but can't imagine it for quite a lot of them.

Well...perhaps two of them. Depends on how this plays out but the next door neighbor there appears to have been quite the safe haven.

i’m not sure if i’m being slow or the title and description are phrased confusingly - i read it as countries that are definitely not allies of nato, ie non-nato allies, and started guessing countries whose regimes the usa might identify as counter to their values, like north korea or saudi arabia. i know i was wrong but could the description offer a little clarification maybe?

Saudi Arabia is also a major ally of the U.S...

The situation in Afghanistan is still pretty chaotic and probably won't be resolved for several months, if not years. The government of President Ghani is still the internationally recognized government, even though he's not even in Afghanistan anymore. The Taliban has taken over the capital by force and proclaimed a new government while simultaneously claiming they seek a peaceful transfer of power. I don't think the Taliban has even officially chosen a leader.

In other words, it's a hot mess, and probably too early to definitively update the quiz. (Also if I got any of that wrong please correct me--it's hard to keep track of everything going on right now.)

IKR

Different government, but it seems the US still recognizes the old regime, and the designation has not yet been revoked

Needless to say the Afghanistan situation is a bit complicated

Maybe make it 𝘥𝘦 𝘫𝘶𝘳𝘦 an ally, at least until the Islamic Emirate is proclaimed to officially succeed the Republic and maybe sever ties with the US

I thought since when Quizmaster became so sarcastic and featuring this quiz when Kabul fell.

Why isn't Saudi Arabia on this list?

It has not yet been designated as a Major US Non-Nato Ally.

Personally I'm more surprised Vietnam was never designated. I mean obviously during the Cold War it would be a bit controversial but after 1991...

situation is spelled wrong in the description

(sitaution)

They put Argentina and Brazil but no Mexico?

Has anyone mentioned the problems in Afghanistan? ;)

Quizmaster cant remove Afghanistan from all quizzes like this automatically.

Having Afghanistan on this list aged like milk.

Saudi Arabia?

SINCE WHEN IS PAKISTAN A US ALLY

SINCE 2004 ACCORDING TO THE TABLE ABOVE

Well I must assume that part of the chart is wrong.

They'll be joining NATO proper so they won't be in here.

I'm surprised none of the non-NATO European countries made it onto the list