Very interesting quiz, and it's always fun to project into the future but also notoriously inaccurate. The top 3 spots are interesting. Of course the USA currently dwarfs everyone else but they are busy right now dismantling everything that made them so and have been hard at work at that ever since Reagan. Everyone predicts China will keep growing as they are but I'm very skeptical- not because of their politics but actually because of their one-child policy which presents a unique and enormous demographic problem to an emerging capitalist country. India's growth I see as more sustainable but they're also less politically stable. I also would not be surprised to see some countries like Thailand, The Philippines, or Bangladesh crack the top 20 by 2050. They have the potential to. Saudi Arabia's economy depends almost 100% on oil so of course these projections depend on continued reliance on (and supply of) fossil fuels which may or may not be the case so far down the road.
I completely agree with you. I typed the three (Thailand, The Philippines, and Bangladesh, though I doubted the last) because I believed they would somehow manage to take place in the top 20.
Thailand: possibly, but they have heavy political unstability.
Pakistan: no - they have way too many internal discord - considering that their north-west frontier province is actually a part of the Pashtun homeland that was torn apart during colonial times and that their western province of Baluchistan is also splitting the Baluchis (an Irani people) between Pakistan and Iran. I don't expect to see Pakistan survive until 2050 -- more likely a union between SIndh and West Punjab will survive.
Bangladesh - great potential, but we need to see. Right now they are battling extremists and extreme poverty.
Bangladesh actually has one of the highest rates of economic growth in the world right now. There are certainly challenges, but for the most part development is happening rapidly. A Business Insider article I found puts Bangladesh at #23 and the Phillippines at #19, and it also has Pakistan and Vietnam cracking the top 20.
I believe Bangladesh and the Philippines will face too much environmental issues throughout the next decades, which will probably hinder them becoming major economic powers.
Well the Phillipines might be soon be part of the Economic Tigers of Asia '. (Singapore South Korea Taiwan Japan) (( Or maybe Japan is not part of them and the Phillipines is part of it))
How so? PPP means we have to guess about the vagaries of the currency market AND the vagaries of inflation, and wages, and standards of living, and everything else that effects the prices of the goods that PPP is based on.
Weirdly, I agree with kalbahamut that PPP is probably not the best metric here. It's meant to measure how much someone in a country can on average buy, and not how rich a country is compared to another.
I wouldn't say India is politically unstable. They have a strong and reliable democratic process and a competent army to protect it. What is unstable is their foreign policy that changes with each change in government.
Obviously these comments are from a while ago, but India is clearly not doing very well politically right now. COVID also hit their economy hard. Not sure how this will affect their economy in the long term, but worth mentioning.
It is interesting to see how the list changed between 2013 and 2015. Estimates for the US increased by 4 billion and estimates for India decreased by 7 billion. It would seem that, in general, predictions for the demise of the US and the rise of Asia have been overly enthusiastic.
Depends on what countries will join till 2050 and how these economies will develop. Let's look back 32 years from now: The year is 1988. Who would have predicted that just 32 years later the following things will be true:
A) There will be no USSR in the 2020 list.
B) There will only be one Germany which will be the biggest economy in Europe.
C) Countries like Russia, Ukraine, Belarus or Kazakhstan will pop up.
D) Some countries will do a complete 180 and turn their third world economies around among them being South Korea and Poland (related to the previous points).
E) Italy and Japan (two economic powerhouses in the 80s) will stagnate dramatically.
It's really impossible to predict the long term future. In 2050 China could dwarf all other countries or it could break up. The US could remain number 1 or it could completely crash. The EU could seize to exist or it could become the major power (with countries like Turkey and Ukraine joined and UK rejoined). All possible.
I completely disagree with your assessment of the US economy. The US had such an advantage on the rest of the world post WW2, considering the rest of the Allies were either decimated by the fighting to a much larger extent than the US, or doomed to collapse because of their economic structure, or both. Japan decimated China post WW2, but with such a large population and natural resources it would only be a matter of time before China became the largest economy, which it just recently had. The US is still experiencing much higher levels of economic growth compared to the rest of the "developed world." I don't think its correct to claim that the United States has dismantled the foundations of economic opportunity that led to its growth in the 20 or so years after WW2. The US has simply seen the rest of the world catch up, and it's inevitable that growths slows after decades due to diminishing returns.
I’m not surprised about China. Yes, the one-child policy will haunt the country for a long time and limit it’s growth, but it wouldn’t happen fast enough to knock it below India or the US by 2050. I’ve seen some projections expecting the US to overtake China again in the late 21st century, but that far in the future we’re practically guessing.
we're practically guessing on this too. My wildcard guess is Kyrgyzstan will become a major world power and invade all of its neighbors creating a new superpower stretching from the Bering strait to the Persian Gulf.
Vietnam has changed so much in the last six years or so it's incredible. I was in Saigon in 2008... there was hardly a single private car on the road. Just a handful of taxi cabs and a buttload of cheap motorbikes. I went back last year and cars are everywhere. New, modern buildings are going up. The pace and extent of change is amazing.
Communist really isn't an economic or social theory as applied in Asia so much as it is a word that means single-party authoritarian government. Go to Vietnam and you will see that, for all intents and purposes, they have fully embraced capitalism.
The UK will be fine. Leaving the EU is not the disaster some say it is. Besides, having a large economy doesn't mean that the standard of living will be any good. Pretty sure Brazil for example will still be a global crime hotspot.
Leaving the EU is a pretty bad idea and will almost certainly make the economy worse. Whether this effect will be big enough to make the UK drop off the list remains to be seen, especially as predicting the future is generally quite difficult. My guess is that the effect will not be great enough to make that happen, and will probably be largely diluted by other economic events by 2050.
I don't expect Saudi Arabia will actually be there. They are already foregoing saving in their sovereign wealth funds in order to produce oil more cheaply than the Americans. At current rates of drawdown, they will be out of cash in 5 years, and god only knows what happens when they run out of money to placate their people
Nevertheless, Saudi Arabia does seem too high on the list. They currently have a high GDP/capita and also a quickly growing population. I wonder if their 2050 GDP projection is just a simplistic extrapolation of those two things.
But there is only so much oil money to go around. Its also likely that the demand for oil will be significantly lower by 2050 as gas-powered cars become rare or even banned - as is scheduled in the Netherlands.
My main question and observation about this list is , why no Iran? They have a young robust population who are highly educated and also have the backing of oil much like Saudi Arabia. The only thing they are lacking is the connections with the US. They could easily make these connections with China due to the massive New Silk Road Initiative that Iran will be a major hub of. So who knows. Definitely a quiz that makes you think. Population is a key resource in global economic hegemony.
lol I just did the name the countries by first two letters quiz a few seconds ago so when I did this quiz I accidentally started typing the countries by their first two letters.
This can not be truth. Indonesia can be big and have many people living in there, but Indonesia still faces problems. India is poor country. Europeans will rise ofc
Sure India and Indonesia have some "problems", but I think you are overestimating how big the "problems" actually are, and they will probably get better in the future. Also, the ridiculous amount of people living there basically guarantees they will be on the list anyway.
I disagree with Nigeria, Brazil South Korea, China, and Japan.
Nigeria- I disagree with this one because I don't think they will make that much progress due to corruption and political instability.
Brazil- I disagree with this because other path in recent years. I can agree with a large rise of GDP but not to this extent considering recent years.
South Korea- South Korea is going to have one of the worst aging problems which I think will limit their economic growth.
Japan- Same as South Korea
China- I think China will continue to grow but not this much. Currently China is in a rough spot and needs a new economic strategy considering Chinese workers are becoming more expensive with Indonesia and Vietnam possibly replacing them. Chinas debt is also huge thanks to their aggressive investing. I think they will continue to grow but not this much.
Pakistan: no - they have way too many internal discord - considering that their north-west frontier province is actually a part of the Pashtun homeland that was torn apart during colonial times and that their western province of Baluchistan is also splitting the Baluchis (an Irani people) between Pakistan and Iran. I don't expect to see Pakistan survive until 2050 -- more likely a union between SIndh and West Punjab will survive.
Bangladesh - great potential, but we need to see. Right now they are battling extremists and extreme poverty.
A) There will be no USSR in the 2020 list.
B) There will only be one Germany which will be the biggest economy in Europe.
C) Countries like Russia, Ukraine, Belarus or Kazakhstan will pop up.
D) Some countries will do a complete 180 and turn their third world economies around among them being South Korea and Poland (related to the previous points).
E) Italy and Japan (two economic powerhouses in the 80s) will stagnate dramatically.
It's really impossible to predict the long term future. In 2050 China could dwarf all other countries or it could break up. The US could remain number 1 or it could completely crash. The EU could seize to exist or it could become the major power (with countries like Turkey and Ukraine joined and UK rejoined). All possible.
Or not
And Italy (possibly France, Germany and Spain but I think the former two would be able to ride it out) should the Eurozone be no more come 2050.
Italy has huge financial problems. That coupled with the refugee crisis, I expect it would drop off this list easily
But there is only so much oil money to go around. Its also likely that the demand for oil will be significantly lower by 2050 as gas-powered cars become rare or even banned - as is scheduled in the Netherlands.
Nigeria- I disagree with this one because I don't think they will make that much progress due to corruption and political instability.
Brazil- I disagree with this because other path in recent years. I can agree with a large rise of GDP but not to this extent considering recent years.
South Korea- South Korea is going to have one of the worst aging problems which I think will limit their economic growth.
Japan- Same as South Korea
China- I think China will continue to grow but not this much. Currently China is in a rough spot and needs a new economic strategy considering Chinese workers are becoming more expensive with Indonesia and Vietnam possibly replacing them. Chinas debt is also huge thanks to their aggressive investing. I think they will continue to grow but not this much.
It was literally my first guess in this quiz cuz I barely read the title