According to a Gallup survey, an estimated 640 million people say they would like to leave their country permanently. Guess the 15 most popular countries they would like to emigrate to.
Based on this survey, which was taken between 2009 and 2011
I figured there had to be at least one "stable" middle eastern nation for the rest of the political refugees in the area to get to without having to travel very far. Maybe Saudi Arabia and UAE are on the list for that reason.
UAE is the land of opportunity for Indian migrants, especially. Tons of high-paying jobs, safe, modern, very low taxes, and just about as Western as you can get in that part of the world. Something like 90% of the population there are expatriates from other countries.
Yeah. I imagine that a lot people polled in South Asia know people who emigrated to UAE or Saudi Arabia and are sending back checks. But a desire to emigrate to Japan is kind of strange since Japan doesn't really allow immigration.
@ Quizmaster Regarding immigration laws don't matter - the question is just asking "where would you like to move permanently". If you asked me "would you like to be a billionaire", I'd answer yes. It's unlikely to ever happen, but I'd still like it.
Also, plenty of people live Permanently in Japan. Citizenship is rarer, but there are plenty of long term/permanent expats throughout all of East Asia.
Saudi Arabia accepts almost zero refugees. People don't go there because they're fleeing ISIS. They go there to work or to be close to Mecca. Most refugees fleeing the Middle East don't want to stay in the Middle East. They want to get to the United States or Germany or the UK. Of those that flee to neighboring countries, a large portion end up in Jordan. And huge numbers have funneled in to Turkey. But those that go to Turkey usually try to keep going on to Greece and then to the EU. Saudi Arabia is a dead end, and... I think most residents of the Middle East don't have a very high opinion of the place anyway. Most of the expats there come from South or SouthEast Asia or Africa.
I don't know what the situation was like in 2017, but an estimated 5% of the population of Saudi Arabia are refugees according to the Saudi government and UNHCR. Which is a lot higher than any western country. Although a lot of refugees seem to be treated as foreign workers in instead. So, definitely not almost zero refugees.
It's probably not about living near the holy cities, most Muslims either don't go there at all or only go there once in their lifetime. It's more about jobs, there are a lot of expats working in the Gulf countries, most of whom come from south and southeast Asia.
@kalbahamut
Syrian here, a lot of refugees aren't able to reach European countries, which is why Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan host the largest numbers of Syrian refugees.
People go to Saudi Arabia mostly either for the high pay checks and no taxes, or because they are deluded Muslims who believe that the land of Muhammad is going to be some kind of paradise untouched by the evils of Western/American decadence. About 95% are in for a seriously rude awakening when they get there, while the other 5% somehow manage to live with their heads in the sand the whole time. Those ones always irritated the hell out of me.
Also Saudis don't like to work so they recruit heavily in other countries... and in places like Bangladesh, India, the Philippines, Egypt, or Sudan it's quite likely that people have a friend or family member who got a job there.
The Japanese are some of the friendliest people on Earth. So many times in Tokyo people would just stop and ask me if I needed any help with anything. And Japan is a great country; Tokyo an amazing city; with a culture as pervasive and attractive as any other except of course for America's. One of the most successful economies in the world. No surprise at all that people would want to move there.
Bernard62601 -> In 1995, Aum Shinrikyo gased the Tokyo Metro with sarin. Not a lot of deaths or critical injuries but it impaired roughly 5,000 people for days. This sect also tried to bring some Ebola strain in an "humanitarian mission" from Zaire, in the hope of farming it and release it. The Japanese Red Army was also responsible of some hijackings and killings. So you see that even the arguably most secure country in the world can breed its own terrorist threats.
This quiz is not on the subject of which countries are most willing to accept refugees or hand out citizenship, it's about which countries people would like to move to if they could. And it makes perfect sense why people might like to move to Japan, given my explanation. Very nice place to live. Nice people. Clean. Modern. Vibrant attractive culture. Pervasive popular culture. Fairly strong economy. It's surprising that anyone would be surprised by this.
I'm currently living in Japan, and xenophobic is a word I would never use in describing Japanese people. That said, they're so homogenized that they are often clueless to the world outside a lot of the time. That said, from working in a school, they are (or at least my schools are) trying very hard to change this and educate their children with a more international understanding. They do live in this 'Japanese bubble'; for example, the people I work with think foreign people are interested in Japanese culture because it's such a mystery to them. Likewise, they can be clueless about other cultures, but they're always interested and want to learn more about them. I can't speak about government policies, but Japanese people tend to shy away from politics and expressing their own opinions, hence no outcry to let more people in.
I'm assuming you are white and either American or European, and know little about how Japanese people really think, like many expats. Japanese people love Americans because 1. They know Americans have no interest in immigrating and ruining their culture and 2. they still are grateful that America did not kill everyone in Japan like they thought they would.
In reality, Japanese are incredibly racist towards the rest of us Asians, mainly Koreans due to the fact that there are so many there but also Chinese people. It is not fun. They are unapologetic for the war, snobby, and generally unpleasant people to be around.
But are faaaaaar better than most for any hardworking individual, opportunity-wise. That's the difference. I would know, as I am one of those immigrants.
You obviously havent tasted enough to make a rational comment. Good British food would compare just as favourably with good food from the other countries you mention.
I've never understood this stereotype that British have bad food. Ignore the traditional stuff, go to the restaurants there and see what the supermarkets are selling. The food offered is varied and delicious.
I have had excellent food in the UK and terrible food in France, as well as vice versa. Most British people do not have a full English every morning or fish and chips every evening any more than the French live on a diet of snails and frogs legs or Americans eat hot dogs and donuts on a daily basis. Stereotypes are easy to use as the norm. As for Monaco, check out the property prices and see if it is a reality for many
That's what I was gonna say. Monaco is way to expensive for the average person. Not to mention they can only have so many people before it loses its charm.
The biggest problem I see with people who want to emigrate to other countries is most don't seem to want to integrate. They want the new country to bend to their culture, then trying to integrate the culture that they were emigrating from. Maybe people should consider that the culture as a whole that they are leaving is part of the reason those countries are in such as state that would make them want to leave.
This exact outlook towards migrants is what got 13 people killed and 50+ wounded in Berlin, and several people shot in Switzerland yesterday. These people want to destroy the West and the West refuses to acknowledge the problem.
Tinkle Pork. You do realise that most terrorists are actually born and bred in the country they commit the crime in. It is extremely rare for immigrants or refugees (yes, there is a big difference), to commit crimes in countries they come to, and in fact, they benefit the economy enormously, and are far less likely than the original inhabitants to lean on welfare systems.
No it can't, because that story about of refugees-out-of-control in Germany at Christmas has been outed as a lie. It was fake news about something that never happened.
The New Year's attacks were real, but the number of rapes on that day was 3, while the average is about 7500 per year in Germany. Of course each case is tragic, but that single event was blown massively out of proportion because it involved refugees. So the idea that refugees have made Germany measurably more unsafe, and that the New Year's attacks would be a clear indication of that, is false.
I wouldn't say most don't want to integrate, I do know what you mean. Head to the Spanish coast, and it is full of British people who do little integration with the locals.
The major problem with tourist regions such as the Spanish Coast that you mention, is that the locals want the trade and the money, they just don't want to be bothered with a gang of foreigners. The tourists want the sunshine and relaxed life, they just don't want to be bothered with a gang of foreigners.
Danes committed 773 sexual offenses. Immigrants and their descendants 260.
Immigrants committed more than 15% of the violent crime. More than 15% of the assaults of public officials. Almost half of the public disturbances. 25% of the murders. 25% of the shoplifting. 17% of the fraud. Over 10% of the malicious damage to property. 25% of the perjury. 16% of all traffic violations. 15% of the drunk driving.
Who's telling you that immigrants don't commit crimes? Why isn't the media reporting it? How many public resources do you think it takes to cite someone for a traffic violation - let alone assault, rape, murder? Without insultingly waving away the damage to that victim's family and community?
It would be interesting to see the total number of people wanting to leave each country, then recalculate all countries' populations assuming all these wished-for moves happened.
I thought I commented on this before.. ? but the methodology for this survey is very flawed IMO. There are huge disparities in the representation of certain areas. They use different methods to survey in different places. Many countries are left out. etc.
Yeah I'm sure there are many flaws. Still interesting though, and you can't beat the usual comments of globalists vs isolationists. I think you commented on a different quiz, the one about most popular cities to move to.
I've know hundreds of immigrants to the US. I don't know any that don't want to become an Americans. They typically like to keep their religious customs and family traditions. But, they all want to wear jeans and tee shirts and shop at malls and go to chain restaurants. If the US was the horrible place that it is often painted to be, I have to suppose the immigration "problem" would fix itself. It all boils down to whether American citizens want the government to require immigrants to be here legally, or turn a blind eye to those here illegally. At the end of the day, the US is far from perfect. However, it does offer a better way of life than many face in their home countries.
150 million, or a little less than 50% of the current US population. Yeah, I imagine that would go swimmingly. It's so terrible that we have a president who has no interest in allowing anything like that to happen, then we could be as great as Canada or Sweden
Crazy when you think that the number of people who want to immigrate to Canada is actually higher than the current population of Canada! Bring em on! We could use some more people up here.
Then a 90%-immigrant Toronto will take up the entirety of Southern Ontario, because nobody ever wants to go anywhere ELSE when they arrive. Except maybe Vancouver and they're even worse off than Toronto is right now regarding being able to actually afford to live there and finding some actual born-here Canadians living in it that aren't just attending school. I like my Canada sparsely populated and wild, thanks.
I think some people are confusing refugees with immigrants. And a poll with reality. Just because people say they'd like to leave their country doesn't mean they will and vice versa.
(per Google) 38.4% of Saudi Arabia is made up of immigrants, and nearly all are temporary workers. The Arabian Peninsula is a popular destination for South Asian workers, despite the working conditions. There has been a lot written about it. The holy sites do not come into it.
When I was struggling to get the 15th answer I typed in Fiji because of the Truman Show but apparently not enough people share Truman's desire to emigrate there. It seems like a more pleasant option than some of the ones that made the list.
I'm guessing many people who took the survey can't do the Countries of the World Quiz as easily as JetPunk users and aren't aware of all the options, especially for Pacific island nations.
Also, plenty of people live Permanently in Japan. Citizenship is rarer, but there are plenty of long term/permanent expats throughout all of East Asia.
It's probably not about living near the holy cities, most Muslims either don't go there at all or only go there once in their lifetime. It's more about jobs, there are a lot of expats working in the Gulf countries, most of whom come from south and southeast Asia.
@kalbahamut
Syrian here, a lot of refugees aren't able to reach European countries, which is why Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan host the largest numbers of Syrian refugees.
In reality, Japanese are incredibly racist towards the rest of us Asians, mainly Koreans due to the fact that there are so many there but also Chinese people. It is not fun. They are unapologetic for the war, snobby, and generally unpleasant people to be around.
This exact outlook towards migrants is what got 13 people killed and 50+ wounded in Berlin, and several people shot in Switzerland yesterday. These people want to destroy the West and the West refuses to acknowledge the problem.
Here's some for Denmark, 2022:
https://www.statbank.dk/statbank5a/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?MainTable=STRFNA14&PLanguage=1&PXSId=0&wsid=cftree
Danes committed 773 sexual offenses. Immigrants and their descendants 260.
Immigrants committed more than 15% of the violent crime. More than 15% of the assaults of public officials. Almost half of the public disturbances. 25% of the murders. 25% of the shoplifting. 17% of the fraud. Over 10% of the malicious damage to property. 25% of the perjury. 16% of all traffic violations. 15% of the drunk driving.
Who's telling you that immigrants don't commit crimes? Why isn't the media reporting it? How many public resources do you think it takes to cite someone for a traffic violation - let alone assault, rape, murder? Without insultingly waving away the damage to that victim's family and community?
Also Holland/Belgium.
I'm guessing many people who took the survey can't do the Countries of the World Quiz as easily as JetPunk users and aren't aware of all the options, especially for Pacific island nations.