Can you name these nine countries which aren't recognized by JetPunk but meet other criteria for nationhood?
Countries that have self-proclaimed country status plus mass recognition by other countries AND/OR clear independence in their self-administration from any associated countries
It is a territory of New Zealand. Tokelau has voted twice on proposals to become a nation in free association with New Zealand, like Cook Islands and Niue, in 2006 and 2007, but both votes failed to pass.
There is one big difference - Palestine is recognised by 138 nations, and Catalonia by none. In fact, Palestine ought to be in the Countries of the World quiz, as it is on Sporcle.
@Georgerandy Palestine is not a "part of a country that wants independence". They are a pre-existing country that was pushed aside by another (kind of illegal) settlement of Jews, which ultimately developed into Israel. I'm not against the presence of Jews in Palestine, it's just that the Zionists (which i understand are a small part of the Israeli citizens) are too aggressive and are not settling down to talk fairly.
Definitely not a pre-existing country. There has never really been an independent Palestine. Ottoman Empire -> British Mandate -> Israel/Palestinian Authority/Hamas.
And now in 2023 we get to watch the unfolding war and all its bombing, shooting, raping, and desecrating on the 24-hour news cycle on all our devices. What a lovely place the world has become.
If you are not a French speaker, I think the confusion is due to the nearby country of Guyana in South America, which is actually an English-speaking country close to French Guiana (or Guyane in French).
^ You're right. Empirically more Puerto Ricans wish to become the 51st US State than want to be independent. States have more rights than Territories and many on the island have observed the economic deterioration in some of the islands which have opted for independence. (i. e. Haiti is still struggling after more than two centuries of independence).
Maybe the british crown depencies Jersey, Guernsey and Isle of Man should been listed here. They have a high degree of independence, except for defense and foreign affairs, that UK is taking care of.
OK, we'll replace it with a famous photo from the same answer: the beach by its main airport, which features spectacular low flyovers by planes as they land.
Greenland and the Faroe Islands are not in free association with Denmark.They are autonomous parts of the Kingdom of Denmark whose powers are devolved from the Danish parliament (similar to Scotland and Wales' status within the UK).
They are both. A free association between states is one where there is a minor partner in a formal, free relationship between a political territory with a degree of statehood and a (usually larger) nation, for which no other specific term, such as protectorate, is adopted.
I've never had a good understanding of this issue. The US has free association agreements with FS Micronesia, Palua, and the Marshall Islands, and they are considered one of the 196, so what is the difference between those nations and the ones you list here? What else is required to be recognized as a sovereign nation, and are any of these on the pathway to that?
These are all UN members and recognised as independent by every country, however the countries in free association here are not independent and do not have significant independence movements.
I still haven't seen a comment truly explaining why Abkhazia and South Ossetia aren't on this list. They are more recognized as independent than some others on the list. And (although I don't agree) JetPunk seems to have conceded Crimea to Russia in all its maps, so it's not a JP anti-Russia-military thing.
Abkhazia and South Ossetia are really just territories de facto Russian-occupied, but recognised by the majority of countries as legally part of Georgia.
It's nice to see you think that one quiz website's editor is a better judge of what a country is than the combined leadership of the 190+ member states of the United Nations.
exactly. What's more likely to be neutral? If your answer is a huge bureaucratic political body where everything is decided by committee, that's obviously the wrong answer. A single informed person without any particular political axe to grind, with no diplomatic or economic interests or ulterior motives, who applies the same consistent standard to every country they evaluate, can make much more impartial judgments than a gigantic organization that can only make decisions through voting which of course is ruled by popularity, politics, and various causes du jour.
What a ridiculous false choice. No-one is being asked to choose between the leadership of 137 nations and our esteemed quizmaster, even though it is more likely the combined wisdom of the said 137 countries and the origination declarer would carry the greater weight than one person. What we suggest people do is to decide from first principles: is the unilateral declaration of independence by a country, followed by its recognition by 137 other countries, enough to qualify it as being a country in the eyes of what you would describe as any person with no particular axe to grind, with no diplomatic or economic interests or ulterior motives?
Right. And from 1945-1971, The Republic of China (Taiwan) was a real, sovereign country, while The People's Republic of China (China) was not... but then in 1971 even though nothing had changed, Taiwan magically ceased to be sovereign and China instantly popped into being. That had nothing at all to do with politics, right?
Taiwan lost the civil war and most of them went to the island of Taiwan, which is a province of PRC, it's that simple. People lose in wars and lose their land, it's not that uncommon.
Interesting aruba is here but it is an accepted type-in for caribbean netherlands on the 206 - 242 quiz. Not complaining, it makes it easier to complete.
Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey are all British Crown Dependencies, whereas Faroe Islands and Greenland are two of the three constituent countries that comprise the Kingdom of Denmark.
Yes, but their level of independence are the same. They are all independent, except in defence and foreign affairs. The crown dependencies share queen with UK, but that are also Canada and Australia doing.
This quiz seems a bit vague!? How does Bougainville not qualify? Autonomous region of Papua New Guinea, that last year (2019) held a independence referendum (overseen by New Zealand) in which 98% voted for full independence...? Check out unpo.org (Unrepresented nations and peoples organisation) and James Ker-Lindsay's YouTube channel for more info on partially recognised states! P.s. Free Barotseland!
As the referendum is non-binding the 98% vote in favour of independence did not trigger independence automatically; in fact Bougainville hasn't declared independence yet.
Shouldn't England,Wales and Scotland be listed here as well? They're in similar relation with each other as Netherlands, Aruba, Sint Maarten and Curacao.
Yes, I confirm this. Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba are special municipalities of the country of the Netherlands that are located in the Caribbean.
Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten are different, these are other countries within the Kingdom of the Netherlands. They share the same king of the Netherlands as the head of state, but they have their own prime ministers.
why is Kosovo a country for you, but not Palestine? That doesn't make sense because both are recognized by an almost equal proportion of UN members. Israel is merely an apartheid regime that has murdered innocent Palestinians and brutally taken over the country. Sorry for my bad English, I'm from Lebanon
Kosovo functions as an independent country, Palestine doesn't. Israel does as well, no matter how much you dislike it. JetPunk generally looks at the actual situation on the ground, rather than what is fair/ legal/...
You do put Bonaire on the list but not St. Eustatius and Saba. While it has the exact same status as the others. It has not the same status as Curacao or Aruba or St. Maarten which is even weirder since YOU have not included St. Maarten which does have the same status as Curacao and Aruba. So I don't know if you are delusional or where you get your information from but it is not a reliable source and this makes this quiz look stupid.
It counts Bonaire as a type-in for the entire Caribbean Netherlands, which comprises Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, and Saba. On "show missing dots" mode, the dot is placed on Bonaire as it is the largest and most influential of the three, but they are one entity for the purposes of the quiz.
How is 146 countries not enough for jetpunk to recognize Palestine as a country while they do recognize taiwan and taiwan only has a few countries that recognize it.
If you'll add Catalonia it will be ok to add palestine
Definitely not a pre-existing country. There has never really been an independent Palestine. Ottoman Empire -> British Mandate -> Israel/Palestinian Authority/Hamas.
https://www.jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/63858/countries-206-to-242
Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten are different, these are other countries within the Kingdom of the Netherlands. They share the same king of the Netherlands as the head of state, but they have their own prime ministers.