I think it is great to be included just to remind people in general that you don't have to be able to hear and speak to have a language. I also didn't think of sign language at all.
In my local high school in New Zealand it's Maori, Chinese, Japanese, and German. Other schools here might offer French or Spanish, or occasionally Latin, Korean or Samoan.
Latin, French, Spanish and/or German were assigned for the first two years and optional after that. Of all the things I’ve learned and forgotten I think I regret Latin most
Fifteen to twenty years ago, my Chinese teachers would brag about how common it was to study Chinese in the USA. I tried to explain to my fellow students (generally Japanese or Korean) that that was actually not true, but nobody believed me.
Wait, lemme guess – you’re talking about Russian because it’s the only Slavic language on the list, right? Because surely you didn’t mean to point out any other of these full and rich languages with a disparaging quip.
It's strange how Latin is studied more in grade school than in university. Considering that biologists, doctors and historians all need Latin to some extent, I was expecting to see it higher at universities.
Many religious schools require all their students to take Latin. Catholic schools in particular, but I know people who went to Evangelical schools who had to do it as well.
When you say "useful," do you mean that you need to know these languages more than others because they are most prevalent where people don't speak English? I guess what I mean is that I read this to say that Russian is most useful because it prevails in lots of places where people don't speak English but Dutch and Finnish are less useful because most people in those countries speak English. Is that more or less correct?
yes exactly. There are very large numbers of people in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and other East European countries who do not speak English but who speak Russian. There are also a lot of people in Italy, Romania, etc who speak Italian but not English, and many people in Spain who do not speak English. German will help you out in several countries even though the majority of people in Germany also speak some English. Serbian will be of use in the Balkans. I was also considering what Natascha posted below: if you know some Russian you will be able to at least read Cyrillic and discern meaning from many Slavic languages. If you know Italian or Spanish or French you can make sense of a lot of written Portuguese, Romanian, and so on.
But, yes, the main reason I ranked Russian #1 is that there are many very large very populous countries with a lot of people who understand Russian but not English.
I was also thinking about second languages. Like, many Germans speak English... but there are a lot of people in Poland who don't speak English but who do speak German.
I agree with what you say here, and add that French is very useful if you enter the former French and Belgian colonies of West Africa (lots of these), and the other parts of the world where the French Empire reached, such as some islands in the Caribbean, the islands off East Africa, some parts of Canada, and of course France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland.
If you speak one Romanic language, you can easily read others. I speak fluent French, so understanding Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and even Romanian is relatively easy. You can do with one of 2, 3,7,8
If you speak one Slavic language, others are relatively easy. Slovak, Ukrainian, Polish, Czech are pretty similar. My Slovakian and Polish colleagues at work can talk to each other in their own language and the other person will understand, same with Slovak and Czech.
I had never considered learning Slovak before, but if it could open the door to both Polish speakers and Czech speakers as well as Slovak speakers themselves, then it's definitely next on my list
I know enough Spanish to have a conversation with a 5 year old in addition to having some very very rudimentary knowledge of Latin, Greek, French, German and Polish and the ability to sound out words written in Russian Cyrillic. All of the above made it possible to puzzle out the meanings of signs, restaurant menus, and even newspapers in virtually every country in Europe. There are many similarities between all of these languages.
Knowing Russian (or any other Slavic language, but especially Russian) makes it easy to get around any Slavic country, as a lot of basic words are similar, and most former communist countries have tons of older people who learned Russian in school.
I feel like more schools should be offering Chinese at this point. It's probably the most useful foreign language for Americans at this point, other than maybe Spanish.
spanish is still far and away the most useful for the US in general, and it also allows you to somewhat be able to understand italian, portugese, and french.
Depends a lot on what career field you want to go into and where you live or wish to live. If you want to be a teacher, social worker, politician, or manage a construction company in Texas, Spanish would be extremely valuable. If you want to be an engineer you're better off studying Japanese, Chinese, or German.
I've had three conversations in Spanish today just by walking my dog around the block. Not a day goes by that someone doesn't say something to me in Spanish, so I'd say it's still the most useful in the U.S.
What about the languages that are actually learnt? Because I'm from Spain and every time I meet an American they seem to only know how to say piñata and count til cuatro. Makes me wonder about the quality of their education system.
The world lingua franca is generally English and Americans almost have a mindset like the US is the only country that exists. There is really no cultural pressure for people to learn other languages and for schools to actually try to make people fluent in them. You won't learn a language with the conventional American school system.
Most Americans I know are at least conversational in a second language, but I also went to very good schools and have a white-collar career, so my experience is probably not the norm. I echo alejour's sentiment in part: learning a second language is not as pressing for Americans as it is for people in other parts of the world because English is the most common language across the world (I don't mean by sheer number of speakers. I mean that you can find it everywhere). If you're an American tourist in any major global city, you can find English speakers. If you're a Swede who only speaks Swedish, you are unlikely to find your language outside your country, which is a big problem. In my experience, Americans are much better at second languages than the English or Australians though.
There are millions of Americans who are very fluent in Spanish. There are also millions of Americans who took it for three years in high school because they had to, crammed the night before for every test, and promptly forgot everything they had learned the following year if not the following week, because if you only speak English you can get by perfectly fine and there's nothing ignorant or chauvunistic about that statement it's just factual if you live in the United States.
Why do Europeans always forget they live in an area smaller than the United States and are fractured by scores of languages whereas the larger U.S. functions on one?
Also it's a bit sad to see Americans being dismissive of other languages here. You wouldn't like to go to Mexico and speak Spanish? Or even visit Europe or Asia and be able to mingle somewhat.
Also consider the fact that the percentages are just how many schools offer the course, and not how many students actually take it. Plus, schools which require x years of a language to graduate often have multiple options. (Also like the garbage American school system but we can just brush that under the rug fs)
Is the fact that the College Board offers AP courses for all but the last two languages in K-12 a reason for their prevalence? Especially for Japanese and Latin?
I learned Ancient Greek (Attic and Homeric) as a part of my degrees in archaeology and classics, but I also really enjoyed it and met plenty of people who were there for the fun of it! That said, in my experience as both a student and a teacher, most people in the courses were there because it's a biblical language (Koine).
Ancient Greek and Biblical Hebrew are requirements for Presbyterian ministers, and even if not a requirement, many clergy learn ancient Greek so they can read the oldest known texts of the New Testament without the translation in the way.
Got them all, but for a while after I got all the high school ones I kept thinking of university linguistics courses and just assumed native american languages would fill in the rest. I'm sad I'm wrong.
It's the most spoken primarily because it's spoken in a very populated country. Outside of China, not nearly so much. Whereas many of the other languages on this list are spoken in a large number of countries and by probability will be more useful to any given student.
1. Russian
2. Italian
3. Spanish
4. German
5. Serbian
6. Polish
7. French
8. Romanian
9. Greek
10. Swedish
But, yes, the main reason I ranked Russian #1 is that there are many very large very populous countries with a lot of people who understand Russian but not English.
If you speak one Slavic language, others are relatively easy. Slovak, Ukrainian, Polish, Czech are pretty similar. My Slovakian and Polish colleagues at work can talk to each other in their own language and the other person will understand, same with Slovak and Czech.
Also it's a bit sad to see Americans being dismissive of other languages here. You wouldn't like to go to Mexico and speak Spanish? Or even visit Europe or Asia and be able to mingle somewhat.