Countries Bordering Ukraine, with an Empty Map

How do we make a map? I don't understand

GOod quiz

Because it is. Russia annexed it in 2014.

Although Russia annexed it, the international community, as well as the UN, recognize it as part of Ukraine. (See UN General Assembly Resolution 68/262).

The UN has recognized Palestine and Jerusalem as independent from the immigrants forever too, but it's a ban hammer subject around here.

I hope not. I support Ukraine but Crimea has been under the control of Russia since 2014. I don't care whether you support Ukraine or not, you can't deny facts. Just like, even if you're a confederacy supporter, you can't say, "Oh yeah, it's still alive down there in the south,"

If de-facto control is what is considered the most important aspect of sovereignty for Jetpunk then why aren't places like Somaliland treated in the same manner?

I fully agree with everything you wrote. How the Crimea became (again) a part of Russia has to be criticised. That it is a part of Russia is less dramatic at least when you are not entirly innocent about the history and strategic importance of this territory (in particular since 1945). But the western world did not like the short period from 1945-1991 when the west was not able to invade Russia whenever they thought its a fun trip...

By that logic Germany was right to take Austria in 1936.

The referendum results were very openly forged, Ethnicity does not imply right to invade, and the mere fact, that "people who are not happy" have to leave their home, should show, that this was a hostile take over, not a reunification.

@Usrnetc.

Your take is historically wrong. Austria was never a German state, especially not several decades, before Germany was founded.

There was a strong support for the Anschluss initially, but as soon as Austrian Nazis started to murder opposition politicians, the public opinion grew against it, and in 1938, the majority was opposed to it. That's why the nazis scrapped a planned referendum on the issue, they knew, they would have humilitated themself in the home of the Führer.

Just as in Crimea, the Nazis used Ethnic nationalism to take over, then silence the opposition to manufacture some kind of artificial consent for the Global Press.

Crimean Tatars, who are undergoing ethnic cleansing, would strongly disagree. As stated above, ethnicity does not give a country to right to invade another country. The whole point of this policy is to prevent countries like Germany or (in particular) Russia from being able to push around their smaller neighbors without consequence. That was the exact defense that the Nazis used to justify the annexation of Czechia and Poland. The most ironic bit is that Crimea was gifted to Ukraine by Khrushchev as a sign of goodwill. The only reason Putin illegally took it back was to push back against Ukraine's sovereign aspirations toward the West and because the Russian lease on Sevastopol was ending soon.

As said, the concrete actions which happened 2014 should be critisised -- as they should be critisised everytime a state violates international law! But people avoid the more fundamental question whether the geographical status quo is actually an issue. I mean, consider it is 1991 and the Soviot Union is dissolving and it has to be decided of which new state Crimea should be part of: what is your answer? Do you think the vast Russian majority at the Crimea has been asked back in 1991? If your answer back in 1991 would have been Russia, what changed since 1991 that you would not deviate from that decision?

@TheLastFish There was a referendum in 1991 on Ukrainian independence and 54% of Crimea and 57% of Sevastopol voted in support of independence. Check it out for yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum

Unfortunately though, the same logic about many Ukrainians being “Russian” is the why Russia has recently invaded Ukraine, so while I understand why you might say that Russia was right to take Crimea, but I feel that it wouldn’t be any different from the UK waltzing into the Australia and taking it over claiming that the majority of Australians are of English descent

Well this referendum was as legit as the Trump's allegation for fraud.

100% of the alone guy who answered the question (and was an emigrated Russian) agreed with the Russian proposal :D

I find it a bit of a stretch to call it “asking an awful lot of the Quizmaster” to present Crimea as part of Ukraine on a few maps and quizzes here and there. It should be a pretty straightforward process. And at no point have I drawn any conclusions about Jetpunk’s position on international disputes. But it shouldn’t come as a surprise to you if people start drawing their own conclusions in such a situation, because maps can and have been used for political and propaganda purposes in many instances. Portraying one territory as being part of country A whereas it is legally part of country B, can play a part in influencing public perceptions in the long run by making an unlawful act or an unjustified claim appear normal. And lastly, your comment assumes I haven’t made any meaningful contribution, which sounds a bit rich and patronizing coming from someone who doesn’t know who I am.