The End of the JetPunk Shop

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There's a Shop?

For those who don't know, JetPunk opened an online shop back in June 2023. It was a passion project that took years to get running, you can read more about it in my blog The JetPunk Shop Backstory.

Where's it going?

Due to several circumstances, the shop will be closing down permanently after December 31st 2024. After this date, the shop will cease to exist.

Why is this happening?

The JetPunk Shop took a lot of effort to create and maintain, especially in the years of development finding suitable suppliers and such. While the first couple months back in June/July 2023 were good business and showed promising prospect, every month since (except December '23) was disappointing, barely breaking even.

Most months in 2024, we have received less than 5 orders in a single month... this means that there is simply a lack of interest from users in a JetPunk Shop (despite people asking for it for years). So overall, there is simply no viability for this venture to continue.

What have we learnt?

Firstly, a great deal was learnt about the industry of merchandise in the process, and that is certainly not wasted. A lot of the process was time consuming, but also fun and enjoyable.

Secondly, a lot of users did manage to grab themselves some memorabilia, and they will forever be a unique feature of their life that nobody else will have.

Thirdly, we learned that while a lot of users might "talk the talk" and demand features / development for the "good of the whole community", the fact is that most ideas are just not suitable or viable for the long term, and not for the majority either. From a Shop perspective, it's clear that most users fall into 1 of 2 categories:

1) They are just casually interested in JetPunk and have no attachment to spend money on it

2) They are heavily invested in JetPunk but have no money of their own to spend on it

Unfortunately, these are the main factors leading to the closure of the Shop.

56 Comments
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Level 54
Nov 2, 2024
Honestly I think people just like bugging you to add more features.
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Level 68
Nov 2, 2024
I think it's moreso people thinking that their "world-changing idea" is somehow something that every single person wants (it's not)
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Level 44
Nov 2, 2024
I AM going to turn into the biggest crashout known to man
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Level 55
Nov 2, 2024
Thank you for all the efforts put into this project, even if it wasn't successful in the end. And thank you a lot as well for announcing the end of the shop in advance and not closing it like that. I was one of the very first customers of the shop and I definitely plan to be one of his last ones as well.
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Level 68
Nov 2, 2024
I might even give a prize to the last customer... No promises though :)
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Level 30
Nov 2, 2024
As the first public buyer I am really satisfied with items that I use to this day (mousepad, cup) so it's sad to see it shut down, maybe I'll order some more stuff before it closes.
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Level 87
Nov 2, 2024
I still often wear my JetPunk cap and drink out of my JetPunk mug! I do have people ask me about the cap from time to time.
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Level 76
Nov 2, 2024
Oh no! I was not expecting to wake up to this. I guess I will have to grab some more JetPunk swag before the opportunity ends forever!
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Level 85
Nov 2, 2024
I love to use Jetpunk, but it's really nothing I would spend money on for some international shipping of a small merch item. I'm even hesitant to buy internationally of my favorite band.
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Level 60
Nov 2, 2024
I think you are justified to close it down

Most users (me included) never really used it, unfortunately so

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Level 67
Nov 2, 2024
I will probably order something to support the site, thank you for all the work that you two do, it's amazing!
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Level 78
Nov 2, 2024
I love some of the stuff on the JetPunk shop! I have the coasters in my rooms, have some stickers on one of my laptops and ordered some more yesterday to put on the other. I will miss it, but considering the demand isn't there, I think it's justified.
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Level 83
Nov 2, 2024
To be completely honest, (and live in place where the shipping cost makes most online shopping absolutely unworthwhile, so I am not a target for any online shop), I think these products seem a little... generic. I think people would be interested in some things that are a little bit more... I don't know... fun? Like, a T-shirt with names of all the countries in the world in a form of a table from one of jetpunk quizzes, or mugs with country shapes, or something similar, something, I don't know... more specific? I think the focus of the items in the shop was more on jetpunk brand than on what jetpunk has to offer, more of form over essence. Once again, I would probably not buy something anyway, but I think the products just needed to be more interesting, that's all. I say that as a person who has paid jetpunk premium, just to support the site. Support is one thing, but if you want to sell a product, that product has to be of interest to a potential buyer. This is just... bland.
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Level 77
Nov 2, 2024
I reckon it's a dilemma: you either appeal to the average JetPunker, the vast majority of which are not going to spend anything on the site, or you appeal to the hardcore JetPunker, of which there are a lot less (and half of whom are kids with no money).
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Level 68
Nov 2, 2024
I think it's a bit hypocritical to suggest "this is what you should do", and yet to say even then you would never buy anything anyway.

By far the most popular products are simply those with the JetPunk logo on it and that's it. I created designs for stickers with around 20 country's flags and flag maps on them, and even then the most popular sticker by far is just the JetPunk logo ones.

If I saw any data which suggested that adding geography items that weren't JetPunk related would've resulted in sales, then I would've done it.

Fact is, almost all the suggestions you made are already done by other companies for far cheaper, so what's the point in JetPunk doing it? The products that were offered were specific to JetPunk itself, and that's what makes the products specific and unique, not just random stuff with no connection.

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Level 60
Nov 2, 2024
I think Stewart is right. The JetPunk shop is about JetPunk, as it should, not about countries. There are definitely many versions of those country t-shirts and stuff everywhere online. But, then again, it's just an opinion/suggestion, so no need to call him hypocritical or anything....
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Level 83
Nov 2, 2024
Sorry, I know you've put everything into this site, and I deeply respect that. I just wanted to give my opinion on what might be one of the reasons for this relatively unsuccessful project. The market for jetpunk branded products, I think, isn't that large. The people who wanted to buy this kind of product have probably bought it in the first month or so. If you want to keep selling, you need products that can appeal to a wider market. Most people buying Nirvana T-shirts don't know a song by them, but they like how that looks. And the point about jetpunk isn't about the name, or Jeppy (as cute as he is), but about the quizzes. So, in my opinion, the merch should have been focused on that.

Once again, I really wanted to give a constructive feedback, I am an avid supporter, I am by no means hypocritical, I just wanted to help, if there is a way to help. I believe that constructive criticism is always helpful. Anyway, good luck, I hope you'll have more success in the future.

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Level 70
Nov 2, 2024
It's very sad that your constructive (and probably accurate) criticism resulted in you being called a "hypocrite" by someone who's supposed to be an ambassador for this website. Insulting one's userbase (particularly when they're right) suggests that one is probably not in the right frame of mind to be working on product development.
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Level 80
Nov 9, 2024
There was no insult thrown. Saying someone's argument or point seems a bit hypocritical is very different from calling that person a hypocrite. As an "ambassador for this website" who built the shop, it seems fair for Stewart to point out that sales data indicates the suggestions wouldn't have worked anyways. It seems to be that taking suggestions from people who ultimately didn't use the end product led to this whole dilemma in the first place, so what Stewart said seems completely reasonable. It's a nerdy quiz site, not a rock band, so I think the notion of appealing to a wider market is misguided and I don't know what focusing merch on the quizzes would look like.
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Level 70
Nov 10, 2024
If someone tells you "you're saying something that's hypocritical", then a reasonable inference is that they're calling you a hypocrite (i.e. insulting you). And that's how @vitriden, above, interpreted it.

I'm not sure why you're using such desperate semantic gymnastics to suggest otherwise.

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Level 67
Nov 30, 2024
you're right
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Level 80
Nov 30, 2024
Goodness, my apologies for pointing out that actions can be separate from actors, news to me that that's somehow desperate or gymnastic! If someone outright called me a hypocrite I would be far more offended than if someone pointed out that something I had said or done was hypocritical. Just me I guess, I had no idea laying out a different interpretation was so frowned upon
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Level 72
Nov 2, 2024
I'm definitely the 2nd type of user. I love quizzes but I'm broke. I just hope that I'm not broke because I spend my time memorizing the capitals of some obscure countries lol
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Level 79
Nov 2, 2024
I fit in neither of these categories. I love Jetpunk and have for years, and I have money to spend.

But I don’t need more stuff, and I’m not crazy about branded merchandise anyway.

I do, however, recommend Jetpunk to others.

I’m sorry you spent so much effort on something that didn’t end up being worthwhile. I know that must be discouraging.

Thank you for everything you do!

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Level 68
Nov 2, 2024
Not everyone would fit the two suggested categories. But recommendations to JetPunk also a help a long way to supporting the site, so thank you :)
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Level 70
Nov 2, 2024
"We learned that while a lot of users might "talk the talk" and demand features / development for the "good of the whole community", the fact is that most ideas are just not suitable or viable for the long term, and not for the majority either."

Not bitter at all, then.

In future, I suggest that Jetpunk focuses on featuring more great user-created unfeatured quizzes and spends less time on vanity projects like this.

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Level 79
Nov 2, 2024
Wow, this is incredibly rude. And shortsighted and selfish. I’m not an expert in web design, but I guarantee that the amount of unpaid work that Stewart and QM do on the site is in the thousands of hours. Calling something like this a vanity project implies they’re just doing it to be selfish and self aggrandizing, while you complain about not having enough featured quizzes? I really like the site, and I don’t want to see it die. I recommend it to people (and force my students to use it to learn geography). I haven’t ordered on the shop because shipping and duties would cost me 50% of anything I buy, but I’m definitely going to buy some merch before it closes just to support the site.
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Level 70
Nov 2, 2024
@Dimby - "I guarantee that the amount of unpaid work that Stewart and QM do on the site is in the thousands of hours."

I'm sure they do a lot of unpaid work for the site. Which is what makes the choice to invest time and money in the shop all the stranger - the money that they lost on that could've been put towards hiring another employee for the last year.

We all make bad bets or decisions sometimes, and that's how we learn. But, if you want to talk about people being "rude" or not having any class, I suggest you compare the "Jetpunk Shop Backstory" blog post that accompanied shop's launch - where Stewart grandly wrote about how it was his passion project, about how he'd pushed very hard to make happen, and in which he didn't give any credit to any users for encouraging him to pursue the idea - with the blog post above, which blames the shop's closure on a handful of annoying, loudmouth users who led Stewart astray. It's not respectful or effective stewardship.

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Level 80
Nov 9, 2024
"If you think I'm being rude take a look at this other person being way more rude, that makes what I said okay." Classy
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Level 70
Nov 10, 2024
I don't think I was rude - forthright, perhaps.

Comparing the blog posts - soaking up the praise and credit when it seemed like a good idea; blaming other people and taking no responsibility when it turned out to be a bad idea - makes it quite clear to me that this was a vanity project.

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Level 80
Nov 30, 2024
I don't think it was rude either, just seemed like finger pointing to me, but I think calling it a vanity project seems sort of unfair. If I put myself in Stewart's shoes I'd be upset that the shop didn't work out after trying for several years to bring a project to life. And it seems we have different perspectives on how reproachful his comments are - that's fine. I think, while frustrating at times, it's nice that the primary people who maintain the site regularly show that they're human (QM is snarky in quiz comments all the time) and that we don't always get some polished moderator nonsense as if JetPunk is some big company with a PR department. It seems natural that the person behind the shop would be sad that it has to close and might gravitate towards comments that lean positive. Maybe it was an ill-fated concept to begin with, but that doesn't mean the people who worked to make it happen did it just to stroke their egos or didn't learn anything from it.
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Level 54
Nov 2, 2024
That last sentence is not cool. Do you have any class? It’s not a vanity project; there were users constantly asking for a JetPunk shop and with all of the time and money put into it, they likely didn’t make very much at all from the shop.
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Level 67
Nov 2, 2024
I would really like to buy a mug from your shop, but unfortunately there are no European forms of payments
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Level 62
Nov 2, 2024
As a User Researcher this is classic stuff - cater for people’s needs not their wants.

People don’t know what they want. They definitely don’t know what others want.

I’m sorry you got burned.

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Level 57
Nov 2, 2024
I’m sad to see it go :(

But thanks for all the work you’ve put in tho!

Definitely gonna buy something before it’s gone

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Level 67
Nov 2, 2024
I can't believe how many arguments are going on here.
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Level 67
Nov 2, 2024
Personally I never used it, because well, 1. I fit into the category of "not enough money to spend on it", which is related to reason 2. I'm in NZ and shipping nearly always costs more than the actual item, sometimes by a significant amount, so its not worth it.

Still sad to see it go, but it's for the best, so I can support the decision

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Level 41
Nov 3, 2024
maybe u should make all the items in the shop free... u can get more than 100 orders per day
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Level 52
Nov 3, 2024
But then they wouldn't make any money off of it.
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Level 60
Nov 3, 2024
Oh no way😭
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Level 57
Nov 3, 2024
Where’s the profit then…
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Level 55
Dec 31, 2024
Ain't no way
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Level 45
Nov 3, 2024
It's sad to see this store shut but I kind of felt products were looked generic.

I think JetPunk could use instead some other features like an official podcast (like a once per month) or some kind of JetPunk podcast channel. Chat also could be useful tool.

I also think this website needs to work with more language translators to attract more new visitors.

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Level 63
Nov 3, 2024
rip JetPunk shop, hopefully it returns eventually
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Level 85
Nov 4, 2024
I ordered a single item from the shop right when it opened, the only offering which interested me. Since then, I'd periodically peeked in on the shop and was disappointed to see that the items offered hadn't changed since my last visit... a spike in orders at the outset and subsequent waning interest is surely to be expected if there's nothing fresh being injected into the project, right? How many of the same 2 t-shirts do you expect people to order?
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Level 68
Nov 4, 2024
We've added several new items since the shop was opened... but the addition of a new item takes time and money, and unfortunately neither of those were at our dispense.
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Level 76
Nov 6, 2024
Hi Stewart! Ordered some things I really don't need, but really like to support this site. Maybe it's an idea to do the Wikipedia-like fundraisers once in a while? It's a way to raise money, but also gives users who do have money a way to reach you without having to buy goods. Maybe there are options which I don't know about, but it's just a suggestion. Looking forward to 2 T-shirts a mug and a mouse pad :-)
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Level 79
Dec 20, 2024
Yeah, actually... I would have rather just given money to a Patreon than pay 40 dollars in shipping to get a hat. XD
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Level 56
Nov 10, 2024
I'm in the second boat. I'm going to have to buy exquisite JetPunk Shop items in three or so years off of eBay.
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Level 48
Nov 12, 2024
Can't wait to buy my Jetpunk cup :)
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Level 73
Dec 2, 2024
It's a shame to see it go, though understandable. Even as an avid Jetpunk user, I don't feel the need to buy merch. It's something that other people don't know about and is kinda weird to display in public. I, however, applaud the effort you put into this. Jetpunk has always been one of the best passion driven platforms ever.
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Level 18
Dec 11, 2024
Is there any way for me to know if it is safe to buy something from the jetpunk shop?

I would really like to do so!

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Level 68
Dec 11, 2024
It is completely safe to do so. I am not sure how I could provide proof of that though.
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Level 67
Jan 1, 2025
and... it's officially gone.
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Level 1
Jan 1, 2025
Proszę chciałem coś kupić na zakup na pamiątke ale się spózniłem bo mnie nie było w domu:(
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Level 55
Jan 2, 2025
You don't have to be home to buy something from the store.